{"id":1262,"date":"2018-02-25T18:31:47","date_gmt":"2018-02-25T18:31:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1262"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","slug":"1262","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1262","title":{"rendered":"Shiur 02\/20\/18 &#8211; Beitza 31a"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Beitza 31a<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1- <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We continued the Mishna that discusses the collecting of firewood for Yom Tov cooking and or heating. Only wood that has been prepared prior to Yom Tov can be used. So loose branches in one&#8217;s yard or field may not be \u2018prepared\u2019 in the user\u2019s mind for Yom Tov and therefore unusable. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ecfirewood.com\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/firewood-experts-2.png\" alt=\"Image result for firewood\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2- As mentioned last week, some say that the reason for the limitations on where the wood may be collected from is due to the concept of \u05de\u05e2\u05de\u05e8, gathering. The problem is the <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u05de\u05dc\u05d0\u05db\u05d4<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u00a0of <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/halachipedia.com\/index.php?title=Me%27amer\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u05de\u05e2\u05de\u05e8 <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8211; the prohibition to collect fruits, vegetables, grass, twigs, and the like and creating a pile.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/0\/02\/Manual_harvest_in_Tirumayam.jpg\/270px-Manual_harvest_in_Tirumayam.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=25073&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=668\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">See here in the Alter Rebbe\u2019s Shulchan Aruch. 340, 15<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">3- Now see <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=25073&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=648\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> where the Alter Rebbe brings the Gemara about collecting fruits that are strewn about in a yard. 335, 5. The rule is that although they may be collected one should not put them into a basket. \u2018As one would do during a weekday\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAIW9LcIrq-Ec3SIFgN8Ctcf-RlVWYRvCithe_DnbNuseYkxLw\" alt=\"Related image\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">4- We mentioned the ancient Minhag of entertaining children on Simchas Torah by throwing apples for them to catch. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The text we learnt was from the \u00a0\u05e1\u05d9\u05de\u05df \u00a0in \u00a0the <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/tursa.aspx?a=oc_x3045\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Shulchan Aruch on Simchas Torah <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0#669 that contains <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2018one \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 only\u2019 !<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [One guesses that day is not particular suitable to learn\u2026.with all the Chitas and \u05de\u05e2\u05d1\u05d9\u05e8 \u05e1\u05d3\u05e8\u05d4 and the partying\u2026..] \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In any case, the \u05d1\u05d0\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d9\u05d8\u05d1 \u00a0quotes the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.yeshiva.org.il\/wiki\/index.php?title=%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%95_%D7%91%D7%97%D7%99%D7%99_%D7%91%D7%9F_%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%A8\">\u00a0\u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d7\u05d9\u05d9<\/a> \u00a0\u00a0who frowns upon this custom. But he continues to quote a Medrash from Megilas Esther that this Minhag was mentioned by \u05d4\u05de\u05df \u00a0to \u05d0\u05d7\u05e9\u05d5\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05e9 as \u2018proof\u2019 of the Jews being quite different than the rest of the world! <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the other hand he suggests that perhaps this custom got a bit out of hand and therefore frowned upon by \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d7\u05d9\u05d9. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">5- What does all this have to do with our Gemara? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We mentioned the famed Rov from Bucharest Reb Yaakov Meir Spielman. His Sefer, <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/6902\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u05d8\u05dc \u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, is known as a good introduction to Kabbalah and vol 1 is based largely Chabad Chassidus. Interestingly, one of the <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=6902&amp;st=&amp;pgnum=3\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u05d4\u05e1\u05db\u05de\u05d5\u05ea <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">on the \u05e1\u05e4\u05e8 is from a Lubavitcher, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?rlz=1C1PRFC_enUS648US648&amp;ei=TM6NWqbNFuiIggf5joaoDg&amp;q=Reb+Yosef+Tumarkin&amp;oq=Reb+Yosef+Tumarkin&amp;gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0.0.9316.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.frW2bA49wgM\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Reb Yosef Tumarkin<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, Rov of Kremenchuk. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cache.bhol-forums.co.il\/upload0708\/20091028_12124224774_shpilman2.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Reb Yaakov Meir Spielman writes in another of his books that perhaps the reason the apple throwing was not very popular by some \u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd was because of the apples that needed to be collected <em><strong>after<\/strong> <\/em>the throwing! As above, collecting them into a basket is problematic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.questroyalfineart.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Prentice-Apples-in-a-Basket-1.jpg\" alt=\"Image result for apples in basket\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">6- We then moved onto another topic that connects our Gemara with Purim. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Very briefly, on Purim the Megillah is read twice on the 14th day of Adar. In city that has walls, or had walls going back to the time of \u05d9\u05d4\u05d5\u05e9\u05d5\u05e2 \u05d1\u05df \u05e0\u05d5\u05df, \u00a0it is read on the 15th. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The reason is explained in the Megillah itself and elaborated upon in Masechet Megillah.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What about the towns adjacent to a walled city? Or a town that the walled city can be seen from it? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.dronestagr.am\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/IMG_0731-1200x800.jpg\" alt=\"Related image\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/tursa.aspx?a=oc_x2807\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We learnt the \u05d1\u201d<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u05d7 \u00a0that writes [688] what the definition of \u2018adjacent\u2019 is &#8216;very close&#8217;.\u00a0 Based on a Rashi in our Mishna regarding the \u05e7\u05e8\u05e4\u05e3 \u00a0that is \u2018adjacent\u2019 to the city. As Rashi says. \u00a0\u05e1\u05de\u05d5\u05da &#8211; \u05de\u05de\u05e9. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Beitza 31a 1- We continued the Mishna that discusses the collecting of firewood for Yom Tov cooking and or heating. Only wood that has been prepared prior to Yom Tov can be used. So loose branches in one&#8217;s yard or field may not be \u2018prepared\u2019 in the user\u2019s mind for Yom Tov and therefore unusable. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1262\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Shiur 02\/20\/18 &#8211; Beitza 31a<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1262","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1262","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1262"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1262\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1269,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1262\/revisions\/1269"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1262"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1262"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1262"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}