{"id":1281,"date":"2018-03-23T15:34:58","date_gmt":"2018-03-23T15:34:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1281"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","slug":"shiur-03-20-18-beitza-32a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1281","title":{"rendered":"Shiur 03\/20\/18 Beitza 32a."},"content":{"rendered":"

Beitza 32a. <\/span><\/p>\n

1- We discussed the opinion of Reb Nechemia that one can use any \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u00a0on Shabbos and (perhaps) Yom Tov only for its original purpose.<\/span><\/p>\n

Therefore, using\u00a0<\/span>a knife to cut a rope or a cord would be problematic, since a knife is presumably for eatingm though R”T in Tosafos found this problematic, as knives are used for cutting.<\/span><\/p>\n

Ditto for using a piece of furniture, such as a chair for firewood. [Don\u2019t try this at home unless it\u2019s \u05e4\u05d9\u05e7\u05d5\u05d7 \u05e0\u05e4\u05e9\u2026] <\/span><\/p>\n

2- We spent the rest of the Shiur discussing two interesting idea about \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7. <\/span><\/p>\n

A<\/b>– \u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05e0\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd. <\/span><\/p>\n

The <\/span>Maharil<\/span><\/a>. <\/span>\u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u201d\u05dc<\/span><\/a>. Many of the \u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd that Ashkenazi Jews follow were penned by the Maharil.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>In the Minhagim of Pesach he writes something quite interesting: <\/span><\/p>\n

Although one should minimize having fancy dishes in one\u2019s house, \u05d6\u05db\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d1\u05df, nevertheless on Pesach one should flaunt!<\/b><\/p>\n

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\u00a0<\/a>See here as quoted by the \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd .<\/span><\/a> \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

482 .2. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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We discussed this little known and adhered to \u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05d2 not to spend fortunes on fancy dishes\u2026\u2026<\/b><\/p>\n

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The <\/span>Alter Rebbe<\/span><\/a> adds that placing nice dishes on the Pesach should be done, \u201cas long as one can afford it\u201d. \u00a0482, 6.<\/span><\/p>\n

Jewish Plate:<\/p>\n

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The Maharil then goes on to allow to adorn the Seder table using the \u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd of a goy (obviously taking the Halachos of Kashrus into consideration) that a Yid has in his possession as collateral for a loan extended to this goy. <\/span><\/p>\n

Goyish Plates:<\/p>\n

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We discussed on how this Halachah sheds some light on the life of Jews at that time. Barred from owning land etc., money lending would many time be the only option to survive. The guarantees one would receive would also need something tangible.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

B<\/b>– \u00a0\u05dc\u05d9\u05dc \u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd.<\/span><\/p>\n

Mentioned the story of the Israeli diamond factory that hired a Jewish security guard. On the night of Pesach he decided to go home for the Seder. Well… a robbery occurred. A lawsuit followed and made its way to a Din Torah.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The guard claimed that the diamonds were in a vault. He was hired just as \u2018added protection\u2019. Now since it was Pesach night\u2026..and \u201cone does not need to worry about \u2018mazikim\u2019… no need to lock the doors on Pesach night\u201d \u00a0[<\/span>Alter Rebbe<\/span><\/a> 480, 5. \u00a0481.2] he had the right to abandon his post for the night.<\/span><\/p>\n

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[We also mentioned that \u05dc\u05d9\u05dc \u05e9\u05d9\u05de\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd is \u00a0the reason we do not say \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d4 \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df \u05e9\u05d1\u05e2 Pesach occurs Friday night.] <\/span><\/p>\n

If I recall correctly the guard lost the case and was forced to pay for the loss. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Beitza 32a. 1- We discussed the opinion of Reb Nechemia that one can use any \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u00a0on Shabbos and (perhaps) Yom Tov only for its original purpose. Therefore, using\u00a0a knife to cut a rope or a cord would be problematic, since a knife is presumably for eatingm though R”T in Tosafos found this problematic, as … Continue reading Shiur 03\/20\/18 Beitza 32a.<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"image","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1281","post","type-post","status-publish","format-image","hentry","category-uncategorized","post_format-post-format-image"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1281","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1281"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1281\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1292,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1281\/revisions\/1292"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1281"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1281"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1281"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}