{"id":1300,"date":"2018-04-19T01:53:44","date_gmt":"2018-04-19T01:53:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1300"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","slug":"shiur-beitza-32b-04-17-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1300","title":{"rendered":"Shiur Beitza 32b 04\/17\/18"},"content":{"rendered":"

Beitza 32b<\/span><\/p>\n

1<\/span>– Our Gemara delves into Agadata with a few interesting observations:<\/span><\/p>\n

A- Rav was not fond of some of the Gvirim of Bavel, saying they were not charitable. He went as far as doubting their Jewish linage!\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

B- Someone who doesn’t know where his next meal will come from is considered as if \u2018his world is dark\u2019. We spoke about the \u2018teg\u2019 where Yeshiva \u00a0Bochurim would eat every night at a different home.<\/span><\/p>\n

…hmm, where am I eating tonight?<\/em><\/p>\n

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[We mentioned the \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05dc\u05d5\u05d9<\/a> and his explanation of what Yosef told his brothers:<\/span><\/p>\n

\u2018don\u2019t worry, I will not take revenge on you for selling me as a slave. On the contrary, I will provide all your needs.\u2019 <\/span><\/p>\n

He meant to say that the fact that you will always need me to support you is punishment enough\u2026.]<\/span><\/p>\n

C- Three kinds of people whose lives are not considered \u2018living\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n

1- He who is so poor he waits to be invited so he can eat a meal. <\/span><\/p>\n

2- He whose wife controls him.<\/span><\/p>\n

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3- He who suffers debilitating pain. <\/span><\/p>\n

We spent time exploring various explanation on the Gemara in Brachos<\/a> concerning the two types of marriages.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The \u05de\u05e6\u05d0 or the \u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 type. <\/span><\/p>\n

\u05d1\u05de\u05e2\u05e8\u05d1\u05d0 \u05db\u05d9 \u05e0\u05e1\u05d9\u05d1 \u05d0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05e9 \u05d0\u05d9\u05ea\u05ea\u05d0 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d4\u05db\u05d9: \u05de\u05e6\u05d0 \u05d0\u05d5 \u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0?<\/b><\/p>\n

The People of Bovel would say: In Israel, when one would get married he would be asked (about his marriage): is your marriage a\u00a0 \u05de\u05e6\u05d0 or \u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0: <\/span><\/p>\n

\u05de\u05e6\u05d0\u00a0<\/b>\u00a0– \u05d3\u05db\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1<\/a>: ‘<\/b>\u05de\u05e6\u05d0<\/b> \u05d0\u05e9\u05d4 \u05de\u05e6\u05d0 \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1 \u05d5\u05d9\u05e4\u05e7 \u05e8\u05e6\u05d5\u05df \u05de\u05d4’ ”.<\/b><\/p>\n

He who has found<\/strong> a wife has found good, and has obtained favor from the Lord.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0<\/b> – \u05d3\u05db\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1: ‘<\/b>\u05d5\u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0<\/b> \u05d0\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05e8 \u05de\u05de\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05d0\u05e9\u05d4”<\/b><\/p>\n

And I find<\/strong> more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets,<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d7. \u05d0.<\/b><\/a><\/p>\n

Now the Gemara itself does not offer an explanation as to the difference between \u05de\u05e6\u05d0 and \u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0. Both mean \u2018finding\u2019 a wife. <\/span><\/p>\n

We collected so far 6 explanations of interest: <\/span><\/p>\n

1- \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u05de\u05e6\u05d0 – Found. Past tense. Before one was created it was determined whom he would marry, thus this marriage would be a peaceful one. <\/span><\/p>\n

Or \u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 present. Meaning he didn\u2019t merit to find his predestined one\u2026…(yet)<\/span><\/p>\n

2- \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The GR”A- One only remembers the bad. So \u05de\u05e6\u05d0 means a good marriage, with no need to be reminded of his good luck. \u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 means constant reminder of his choice\u2026..<\/span><\/p>\n

3- \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The problem is the \u05d0\u05e0\u05d9 in the \u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0. A husband with an ego is not healthy for a marriage\u2026.<\/span><\/p>\n

4- \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u05de\u05e6\u05d0 means a wife who is always at home when the man arrives as opposed to \u00a0\u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 who is a wife that the husband need to search for\u2026.<\/span><\/p>\n

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5- \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u05d5\u05e7\u05de\u05e5 \u05d4\u05db\u05d4\u05df \u05de\u05de\u05e0\u05d4 \u2013 \u05de\u05dc\u05d5\u05d0 \u05e7\u05d5\u05de\u05e6\u05d5 \u00a0His blessing to the young couple after their Chupa – \u00a0\u05e8’ \u05de\u05d0\u05d9\u05e8 \u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05d4 of Dvinsk .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\u05de\u05e6\u05d0\u00a0 has a ‘kometz’……..<\/p>\n

6- \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u05e2\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05dc\u05e0\u05e8 \u00a0– Common or rare. \u05de\u05e6\u05d0 means a rare lucky find. He who found a wife and has a great marriage.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\u05de\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0 means an a common find, a ‘standard’ wife. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Taaffeite – very rare<\/em><\/p>\n

2<\/span>– We spoke about the creation of an Ohel. The ‘tent’ created by covering the children with a Talis on Simchas Torah. <\/span><\/p>\n

More next\u00a0<\/span>week.<\/span><\/p>\n

3<\/span>– From last week. Our Gemare discussed \u2018plates of the farmers\u2019. Basically a flat piece earthenware with no indentation. We discussed the origin of the expression \u2018room and board\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"Cucina<\/p>\n

4- We mentioned the Chasam Soifer who was asked the following. Our Gemora has an issue finding a purpose for allowing or prohibiting the forming of coal. What can someone do with it on Yom Tov other than using to melt gold or other metals.<\/p>\n

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The question is why not say that one needed the coal to heat a Mikvah. The CS delves into the history of heating Mikvas and if it prevalent in the time of the Sha”s.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Beitza 32b 1– Our Gemara delves into Agadata with a few interesting observations: A- Rav was not fond of some of the Gvirim of Bavel, saying they were not charitable. He went as far as doubting their Jewish linage!\u00a0 B- Someone who doesn’t know where his next meal will come from is considered as if … Continue reading Shiur Beitza 32b 04\/17\/18<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1300","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1300","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1300"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1300\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1313,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1300\/revisions\/1313"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1300"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1300"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1300"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}