{"id":1451,"date":"2018-08-17T12:44:37","date_gmt":"2018-08-17T12:44:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1451"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:51","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:51","slug":"shiur-8-14-18-beitza-36b","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1451","title":{"rendered":"Shiur 8\/14\/18 Beitza 36b"},"content":{"rendered":"

B\u201dH<\/span><\/p>\n

Beitzah 36b <\/span><\/p>\n

1- Our Mishnah categorizes different activities into three different groups and declares that the activities that are prohibited on Shabbos are prohibited on Yom Tov as well. <\/span><\/p>\n

One of these activities is sitting down to a Din Torah. We mentioned the words of Reb Shrira Gaon<\/a> that placing a suspect in a jail is prohibited on Shabbos. \u201cAnd if as a result he escapes it is not our concern\u201d. See here in the <\/span>Alter Rebbe<\/span><\/a>. 339, 3.<\/span><\/p>\n

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2- The Mishnah enumerates other activities which are prohibited because they are similar to doing business. Doing business is prohibited because of two reason;<\/span><\/p>\n

A- It may cause to write the business transactions.<\/span><\/p>\n

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B- It is contrary to the spirit of Shabbos and Yom Tov. \u00a0\u05de\u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d7\u05e4\u05e6\u05da \u05d5\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8. <\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

3- We briefly touched upon the topic of selling on Shabbos when there is no involvement from the seller. Such as selling online. <\/span><\/p>\n

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The words of Reb Akiva Eiger (<\/span>159<\/span><\/a>) are the source of this dialogue. He quotes the \u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05de\u05ea \u05d4\u05d3\u05e9\u05df<\/a> about \u00a0a bechor whose 31st day occurs on Shabbos. The \u05e4\u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d4\u05d1\u05df is performed on Sunday. But how about \u00a0giving the \u05db\u05d4\u05df the money for a \u05e4\u05d3\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05d4\u05d1\u05df with the condition that it only takes effect on Shabbos? The TH responds that there would be a problem of when to make the \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d4.<\/span><\/p>\n

Thank you to Danny who pointed out that we rely on the\u00a0\u05e9\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc \u05d5\u05de\u05e9\u05d9\u05d1<\/a> and do the same for\u00a0\u05de\u05db\u05d9\u05e8\u05ea \u05d7\u05de\u05e5 \u05e2\u05e8\u05d1 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea.<\/p>\n

So RAE derives from this that other than the \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05d4 there is no issue! Thus such business transactions, when nothing is done on Shabbos, <\/span>may <\/i><\/b>indeed be permitted. RAE writes much more on this topic. <\/span><\/p>\n

4- The Mishnah concludes by saying that \u201cthere is no difference between Shabbos and Yom Tov except \u201c\u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc \u05e0\u05e4\u05e9. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

We mentioned the saying of Reb Zushia of Anipoli who quotes a Zohar that on inviting guests on Yom Tov is more important than on Shabbos. <\/span><\/p>\n

Thus the words of the Mishah \u00a0\u201cthere is no difference between Shabbos and Yom Tov except \u00a0\u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc \u05e0\u05e4\u05e9.\u201d Meaning the \u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc \u05e0\u05e4\u05e9 of the guest\u2026\u2026.<\/span><\/p>\n

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5- Another activity is \u05e7\u05d9\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9\u05d9\u05df. The Gemora says that when one already has two children (boy and girl) it is not such a Mitzvah. The Gemora is referring to actual marriage. <\/span><\/p>\n

What about just kiddushin? We mentioned the famous Rambam <\/span>(IB 1,2)<\/span><\/a> where he writes that \u05e7\u05d9\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9\u05d9\u05df is a Mitzvah. The source for this remains unknown.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The Rambam’s son <\/span>writes <\/span><\/a>that his father was asked this question and answered the his father meant the <\/span>entire <\/i><\/b>process of , \u05e7\u05d9\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9\u05d9\u05df \u05d0\u05e8\u05d5\u05e1\u05d9\u05df \u05d5\u05e0\u05e9\u05d5\u05d0\u05d9\u05df. <\/span><\/p>\n

6- We mentioned the \u05e8\u05d5\u05e7\u05d7 that writes that the letter \u05e4 is not found in the Parsha of \u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d0\u05e9\u05d9\u05ea \u00a0signifying that on Shabbos one should not use one\u2019s mouth to speak…<\/span><\/p>\n

7- The Yerushalmi writes that \u201cit is only with difficulty that the Chachomim allowed one to talk \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9 \u05ea\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 on Shabbos”!!!!<\/span><\/p>\n

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B\u201dH Beitzah 36b 1- Our Mishnah categorizes different activities into three different groups and declares that the activities that are prohibited on Shabbos are prohibited on Yom Tov as well. One of these activities is sitting down to a Din Torah. We mentioned the words of Reb Shrira Gaon that placing a suspect in a … Continue reading Shiur 8\/14\/18 Beitza 36b<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1451","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1451","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1451"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1451\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1455,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1451\/revisions\/1455"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1451"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1451"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1451"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}