{"id":1583,"date":"2019-02-18T02:38:57","date_gmt":"2019-02-18T02:38:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1583"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:51","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:51","slug":"mikvaos-siman-201-shiur-6-2-13-19","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=1583","title":{"rendered":"Mikvaos, Siman 201 Shiur 6, 2\/13\/19"},"content":{"rendered":"

Shiur 6 –\u00a0 2\/13\/19<\/span><\/p>\n

1- We learned the Halacha of a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 that is connected to a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Generally, a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df, has the properties to be \u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8, all types of waters. Such as drawn water \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df. However, a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df cannot change the issue of a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The Torah says \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df \u05d5\u05d1\u05d5\u05e8. That excludes any type of \u05db\u05dc\u05d9.<\/span><\/p>\n

2- It follows, that a spring of water, despite it flowing from a well a \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df, when it fills a large tub or tank, it does not create a kosher \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d4. The issue is the structure of the \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d4, in this case a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9. So because the water is <\/span>in<\/b> this tub, despite being connected to the steam, it does not negate the fact that it is a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9, and a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 cannot be used as a Mikvah, and therefore the water becomes \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df.<\/span><\/p>\n

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3- Now, the overflow of this \u05db\u05dc\u05d9, is also problematic. Because once the water enters this tank it is considered \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df and the overflow is obviously \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

4- However, if some of this stream\u2019s water never enters the tank and it mixes with the overflow then the water of the \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df, will \u2018purify\u2019 the rest of the \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df overflow. <\/span><\/p>\n

\"Related<\/p>\n

Here is the text we learnt. <\/span><\/p>\n

\u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d7<\/b><\/p>\n

Preface<\/span>:<\/b><\/p>\n

Mishna, Mikvous Chapter 5, 1<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05de\u05b7\u05e2\u05b0\u05d9\u05b8\u05df \u05e9\u05b6\u05c1\u05d4\u05b6\u05e2\u05b1\u05d1\u05b4\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05b9 \u05e2\u05b7\u05dc \u05d2\u05b7\u05bc\u05d1\u05b5\u05bc\u05d9 \u05d4\u05b7\u05e9\u05b9\u05bc\u05c1\u05e7\u05b6\u05ea, \u05e4\u05b8\u05bc\u05e1\u05d5\u05bc\u05dc. \u05d4\u05b6\u05e2\u05b1\u05d1\u05b4\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05b9 \u05e2\u05b7\u05dc \u05d2\u05b7\u05bc\u05d1\u05b5\u05bc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05b8\u05c2\u05e4\u05b8\u05d4 \u05db\u05b8\u05dc \u05e9\u05b6\u05c1\u05d4\u05d5\u05bc\u05d0, \u05db\u05b8\u05bc\u05e9\u05b5\u05c1\u05e8 \u05d7\u05d5\u05bc\u05e6\u05b8\u05d4 \u05dc\u05b8\u05d4\u05bc, \u05e9\u05b6\u05c1\u05d4\u05b7\u05de\u05b7\u05bc\u05e2\u05b0\u05d9\u05b8\u05df \u05de\u05b0\u05d8\u05b7\u05d4\u05b5\u05e8 \u05d1\u05b0\u05bc\u05db\u05b8\u05dc \u05e9\u05b6\u05c1\u05d4\u05d5\u05bc<\/b><\/p>\n

Regarding a spring that was led to pass over a <\/b>man-made<\/span> trough, <\/b>the mikveh filled from its waters<\/span> is invalid. <\/b>Because it was from a vessel (the trough) and considered drawn<\/span>.<\/b><\/p>\n

If any <\/b>even minimal<\/span> amount <\/b>of water<\/span> was led to pass over its edge, it is valid <\/b>for immersion<\/span> outside of it, <\/b>anywhere outside of the trough, and even on its edge<\/span>. Since a spring purifies <\/b>even<\/span> with a minimal amount.<\/b><\/p>\n

Mechaber<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05e9\u05de\u05e7\u05dc\u05d7 \u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05db\u05dc\u05d9, \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05dc \u05dc\u05d8\u05d1\u05d5\u05dc \u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05d1\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05d0\u05d7\u05e8 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e6\u05d0\u05d5 \u05de\u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 –<\/b> A spring that trickles into a vessel, is invalid to immerse in. Whether in the water that\u2019s in the vessel or in the water that comes out of the vessel. <\/b>Because it was from a vessel and considered drawn.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u05d5\u05d0\u05dd \u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05df \u05de\u05e7\u05dc\u05d7 \u05e2\u05dc \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05db\u05d5, \u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d0\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d8\u05d1\u05d5\u05dc; \u05d5\u05d7\u05d5\u05e6\u05d4 \u05dc\u05d5, \u05de\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8, \u05d0\u05e4\u05d9\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d0\u05dd \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05db\u05d5 \u05de\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df – However, if the spring leaks onto the edge of the vessel and into it, one may not immerse inside the vessel; but outside of it, it is allowed<\/b> to immerse in. Since a spring purifies even with a minimal amount less than 40 <\/span>Seah<\/span><\/i>, even if the water inside is more than the water outside of the trough. <\/b><\/p>\n

——<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05e9”\u05da<\/b><\/a><\/p>\n

\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05db\u05d5 \u05db\u05f4\u05d5:<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05e4\u05d9’ \u05d3\u05d0\u05dd \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05de\u05e7\u05dc\u05d7 \u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 (\u05d0\u05e4\u05d9’ \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05ea\u05dc\u05d5\u05e9 \u2013 Meaning, that if the spring trickles into the vessel (even if it\u2019s disconnected) \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u05d5\u05d9\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e5 \u05de\u05de\u05e0\u05d5 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05d8\u05d1\u05d5\u05dc \u05d1\u05d4\u05df – And then proceeds to go out <\/b>of the vessel <\/span>it\u2019s<\/b> invalid to immerse in<\/b> this water.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0\u05d3\u05de\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e4\u05e9\u05d9\u05d8\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05dc \u00a0– For what is inside the vessel is most obviously invalid<\/b> as it <\/span><\/p>\n

is drawn water <\/span>\u00a0\u05d5\u05de\u05d4 \u05e9\u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e5 \u05e0\u05de\u05d9 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05dc \u05d3\u05de\u05d9\u05d3 \u05e9\u05e2\u05d1\u05e8\u05d5 \u05d1\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e0\u05e2\u05e9\u05d5 \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u00a0– And for <\/b>the water<\/span> which went out <\/b>of the vessel <\/span>is also invalid. For as soon as it passes through the vessel it immediately becomes drawn water<\/b> and is thus invalid water for immersion.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u05d5\u05db\u05ea\u05d1 \u05d4\u05d1”\u05d7 \u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d9”\u05d2 \u05d3\u05dc”\u05e9 \u05db\u05e9\u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05dc\u05dd \u05d1\u05dc\u05d0 \u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05e0\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d5\u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05de\u05e7\u05dc\u05d7 \u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05db\u05e9\u05e0\u05ea\u05de\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05d7”\u05db \u05de\u05e4\u05d4 \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e5 \u2013 The Bac\u201dH writes in <\/b>seif 13<\/i><\/b> \u2013 That it makes no difference whether the vessel is complete without any holes, <\/b>thus<\/span> the spring trickles inside the vessel, <\/b>and<\/span> when the vessel fills to the top <\/b>it overflows <\/span>and exits from the mouth of the vessel \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05dc”\u05e9 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e9 \u05e0\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d1\u05e6\u05d3\u05d5 \u05e9\u05dc \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05de\u05de\u05e0\u05d5 \u05de\u05e7\u05dc\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e5 \u05e0\u05e7\u05e8\u05d0\u05d5 \u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u00a0– Or whether there is a hole in the side of the vessel and from there <\/b>that hole <\/span>it leaks outside. <\/b>In both instances, <\/span>the water is considered drawn. \u00a0\u00a0\u05d3\u05dc\u05d0 \u05e0\u05ea\u05d1\u05d8\u05dc \u05e9\u05dd \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05de\u05d7\u05de\u05ea \u05d4\u05e0\u05e7\u05d1 \u05e9\u05de\u05e6\u05d3\u05d5 \u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05e9\u05de\u05e7\u05d1\u05dc \u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05de\u05df \u05d4\u05e0\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d5\u05dc\u05de\u05d8\u05d4 \u00a0– For it does not lose its status as a vessel because of <\/b>such a hole<\/span>. Since it can hold water below the hole<\/b>. Thus, if the hole is high enough to have room to hold water below it, it\u2019s still considered a vessel. And now that its status is established as a vessel, it will invalidate any water that enters it – as drawn water.<\/span> \u00a0\u00a0\u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05e0\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d1\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05db\u05e9\u05e4\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e0\u05d0\u05d3 \u05d0\u05d6 \u05d5\u05d3\u05d0\u05d9 \u05d3\u05e0\u05ea\u05d1\u05d8\u05dc \u05e9\u05dd \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05e9\u05e8\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d8\u05d1\u05d5\u05dc \u05d0\u05e3 \u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05db\u05de\u05d5 \u05e9\u05e0\u05ea\u05d1\u05d0\u05e8 \u05d1\u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d4 \u05d3\u05d1\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d6\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d5\u05d4 \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05d5\u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d4 \u05e2\u05db”\u05dc \u05d5\u05e4\u05e9\u05d5\u05d8 \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u2013 However, a hole in the bottom of the vessel as wide as a<\/b> vat spout, <\/b>thus it cannot hold any water. <\/span>It most definitely loses its status as a vessel. Hence, one may immerse inside this <\/b>water and even inside this <\/span>vessel. As explained earlier that in a case <\/b>of a vessel <\/span>\u00a0a spring and <\/b>mikvah<\/i><\/b> are similar <\/b>regarding their laws.<\/span> And this is obvious.<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05db\u05f4\u05d6: \u05d5\u05d0\u05dd \u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05db\u05d5<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05e4\u05d9’ \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1 \u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05e7\u05e6\u05ea\u05d5 \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d5\u05de\u05e7\u05dc\u05d7 \u05d0\u05e6\u05dc \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u00a0\u2013 Meaning, that most of the water goes through the vessel, and <\/b>only<\/span> some <\/b>of<\/span> the water <\/span>passes and trickles on the rim of the vessel, <\/b>however that small amount on the rim, never enters the vessel. And thus – <\/span>\u00a0\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05e9\u05de\u05e2\u05d8 \u05de\u05d9\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05d0 \u05e2\u05d1\u05e8\u05d5 \u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05db\u05dc\u05dc \u00a0– Because this small amount of water did not <\/b>become invalid. As it did not <\/span>at all<\/b> pass through the vessel <\/b> \u05d4\u05df \u05de\u05e2\u05dc\u05d9\u05df \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05de\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05d0\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05d0\u05e2”\u05e4 \u05e9\u05d7\u05d5\u05d6\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05de\u05ea\u05e2\u05e8\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd \u05d9\u05e9 \u05dc\u05d4\u05dd \u05d3\u05d9\u05df \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u2013 They, <\/b>this water, that did not enter the vessel, and is thus not considered drawn water. They <\/span>purify the majority <\/b>of the invalid drawn water inside the vessel<\/span> and make the drawn water valid<\/b> for immersion.<\/span> Although they nonetheless all mix together, they are <\/b>now valid immersion water<\/span> and are considered <\/b>mayan<\/i><\/b> water.<\/span><\/p>\n

(\u05d5\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05d1”\u05d9 \u05de”\u05e9 \u05dc\u05d3\u05e2\u05ea \u05e8\u05e9\u05d1”\u05d0 \u05d5\u05db\u05d1\u05e8 \u05de\u05d7\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d0\u05de\u05d5\u05d7\u05d0 \u05d4\u05e8”\u05e8 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 \u05d8\u05d9\u05d9\u05e6\u05d0\u05e7 \u05d5\u05d4\u05d1”\u05d7 \u05d0\u05da \u05de”\u05e9 \u05d4\u05d1”\u05d7 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05d1”\u05d9 \u05d5\u05d4\u05d7\u05d6\u05d9\u05e7 \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05d5 \u05de\u05dc\u05e9\u05d5\u05df \u05ea\u05e9\u05d5\u05d1\u05ea \u05d4\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1”\u05d0 \u05db\u05d5’ \u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d2\u05d1\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e5 \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1\u05dc\u05d9\u05df \u05d5\u05db\u05de\u05d5 \u05e9\u05e9\u05e0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05db\u05d5’ \u05d5\u05ea\u05d9\u05de\u05d4 \u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05dc\u05d4 \u05db\u05d5’ \u05e9\u05d2\u05d2\u05d4 \u05d9\u05e6\u05d0\u05d4 \u05de\u05dc\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d3\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e5 \u05e0\u05de\u05e9\u05da \u05dc\u05ea\u05d9\u05d1\u05ea \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05db\u05d3\u05e2\u05ea \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5\u05e1\u05e3 \u05d3\u05dc\u05d0 \u05db\u05d1”\u05d7 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05d3\u05d5\u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05e5 \u05e0\u05de\u05e9\u05da \u05dc\u05de\u05e2\u05dc\u05d4 \u05d5\u05dc\u05db\u05df \u05d8\u05e8\u05d7 \u05d1\u05d7\u05e0\u05dd \u05dc\u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d4\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1”\u05d0 \u05d5\u05d6\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05e8 \u05d5\u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05e6\u05d5\u05e8\u05da \u05dc\u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05d9\u05da \u05db\u05d0\u05df \u05d1\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9’ \u05d0\u05dc\u05d5 \u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05e9\u05dc\u05e2\u05e0\u05d9\u05df \u05d4\u05d3\u05d9\u05df \u05d4\u05de\u05d7\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d2\u05d5\u05e4\u05d9\u05d4 \u05e4\u05e1\u05e7 \u05d3\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e0\u05df \u05de\u05e7\u05dc\u05d7 \u05e2\u05dc \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05e7”\u05dc)<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05d5\u05db\u05ea\u05d1 \u05d4\u05d1”\u05d7 \u05de\u05d9\u05d4\u05d5 \u05de\u05d4 \u05e9\u05de\u05ea\u05d9\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e8\u05e9\u05d1”\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d8\u05d1\u05d5\u05dc \u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05db\u05e9\u05d9\u05e9 \u05de’ \u05e1\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd \u2013 The Bac\u201dh writes : that this that the Rashb\u201da allows one to immerse inside a vessel<\/b> that is connected to a spring of valid immersion water<\/span> when there are 40 <\/b>seah<\/i><\/b> between them. <\/b>For the reason of <\/span><\/p>\n

\u201c \u05e2\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1 \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d5\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea – mixing\u201d. i.e. Since the vessel is inside the water, and there is both water inside the vessel on its outer edges. Thus, the water on its outer edges mixes with the water inside the vessel and validates them as they are now mixed and attached. However, this would only be in a case where the vessel carries 40 <\/span>seah<\/span><\/i>, for if not the Mishnah clearly states that this would make it invalid. <\/span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u05d3\u05d9\u05df \u05d7\u05d3\u05e9 \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05de\u05e9\u05de\u05e2 \u05d4\u05db\u05d9 \u05de\u05d4\u05e4\u05d5\u05e1\u05e7\u05d9\u05dd \u00a0– This is a \u201cnew law\u201d and it does not seem this way from the Halachic authorities \u00a0\u00a0\u05d0\u05dc\u05d0 \u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05dc\u05e2\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd \u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05dc \u05d0\u05dd \u05dc\u05d0 \u05e0\u05d9\u05e7\u05d1 \u05d1\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05d5 \u05d0\u05e4\u05d9’ \u05d9\u05e9 \u05de’ \u05e1\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u2013 Rather, <\/b>immersing <\/span>inside the vessel is always invalid. Unless it has a hole, <\/b>which would remove its status as a vessel. <\/span>Even if there are 40 <\/b>seah<\/i><\/b> between both the spring and vessel \u05d5\u05d2\u05dd \u05de\u05dc\u05e9\u05d5\u05df \u05d4\u05e8\u05d0”\u05e9 \u05d2\u05d5\u05e4\u05d9\u05d4 \u05e0\u05e8\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05dc\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e1\u05d9\u05e7 \u05dc\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d4\u05d0\u05d9 \u05d3\u05d9\u05e0\u05d0 \u05e2”\u05db \u2013 And it would seem that even the Ros\u201dh himself did not hold like this law.<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05db\u05ea\u05d1 \u05d4\u05d1”\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e9\u05dd \u05d4\u05de\u05e8\u05d3\u05db\u05d9 \u05d1\u05e9\u05dd \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d9\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc \u05d5\u05d1\u05e9\u05dd \u05d4\u05e8\u05d5\u05e7\u05d7 \u00a0– The B\u201dY writes in the name of the Mordechai in the name of Reb Yoel and The Rokeach<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05d3\u05d0\u05de\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05d4\u05de\u05e9\u05d9\u05db\u05d5\u05d4 \u05d3\u05e8\u05da \u05d7\u05e8\u05d9\u05e5 \u05d1\u05e7\u05e8\u05e7\u05e2 \u05d0\u05dc \u05d2\u05d9\u05d2\u05d9\u05ea \u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05dc\u05d4 \u2013 An aquatic aqueduct that was <\/b>cut as a <\/span>trench in the ground to a large tub \u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u05de\u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8 \u05de\u05de’ \u05e1\u05d0\u05d4 \u00a0– Which can hold more than 40 <\/b>seah \u00a0<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

\u05d5\u05e9\u05e7\u05e2 \u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05d2\u05d9\u05ea \u05d1\u05e7\u05e8\u05e7\u05e2 \u05d0\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d8\u05d1\u05d5\u05dc \u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05d2\u05d9\u05ea \u05db\u05d5’ \u05d0\u05e2”\u05e4 \u05e9\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05d2\u05d9\u05ea \u05e9\u05d4\u05df \u05e9\u05d0\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05de\u05d7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05dc \u05d4\u05d0\u05de\u05d4 \u05e2”\u05db \u00a0– And the tub was attached to the ground, it is invalid to immerse inside the tub<\/b><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u05d5\u05e4\u05e9\u05d5\u05d8 \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d3\u05d0\u05dd \u05d9\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05d2\u05d9\u05ea \u05e0\u05e7\u05d1 \u05db\u05e9\u05e4\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8\u05ea \u05d4\u05e0\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d3\u05db\u05e9\u05e8 \u2013 And it is obvious that if there is a hole on the bottom of the tub the size of a bladder spout it would be valid <\/b>for immersion<\/span>:<\/b><\/p>\n

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\u05d8”\u05d6<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05e2\u05dc \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05db\u05d5.<\/b><\/p>\n

\u05e4\u05d9’ \u05e9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05e0\u05d5\u05e4\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05de\u05e7\u05e6\u05ea\u05df \u05e2”\u05d2 \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05de\u05e7\u05e6\u05ea\u05df \u05dc\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05db\u05e9\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0\u05d9’ \u05de\u05df \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u00a0– Meaning, there was some water on the edge of the vessel, and some water inside the vessel. The water exiting the vessel is Kosher <\/b>for immersion \u00a0\u00a0<\/span>\u05d0\u05e2”\u05e4 \u05e9\u05d0\u05e1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d4\u05d8\u05d1\u05d9\u05dc \u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05db\u05d5 \u2013 Although one is not allowed to immerse inside <\/b>the vessel itself<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0\u05dc\u05e4\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05e9\u05e0\u05d5\u05e4\u05dc \u05e2\u05dc \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8 \u05db\u05dc \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05db\u05dc \u05e9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u00a0– Since the water that falls on the edge of the vessel, <\/b>\u00a0so to say <\/span>purifies all of the water. Even if it\u2019s a minute amount \u00a0\u00a0\u05d0\u05e2”\u05e4 \u05e9\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d4\u05dd \u05de\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u2013 Although, <\/b>ostensible this should not be the case, as <\/span>most of the water is inside the vessel. <\/b>And this water is \u201cdrawn water\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

.<\/span> \u05de”\u05de \u05db\u05dc \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05dd \u05de\u05d7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05d9\u05df \u05e2”\u05d9 \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05de\u05e2\u05d5\u05d8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05e0\u05d5\u05e4\u05dc\u05d9’ \u05e2\u05dc \u05e9\u05e4\u05ea \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u05d5\u05e0\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u2013 Nonetheless, all of the water, <\/b>even the water inside the vessel, <\/span>are now attached to the spring, by being attached to the minimal water that fell on the edge and they are thus purified. \u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u05d0\u05e2”\u05e4 \u05e9\u05db\u05d1\u05e8 \u05e0\u05e4\u05e1\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d1\u05e9\u05d0\u05d9\u05d1\u05d4 \u05db\u05e9\u05e2\u05d1\u05e8\u05d5 \u05d3\u05e8\u05da \u05d4\u05db\u05dc\u05d9 \u00a0– Even though, <\/b>at one point, <\/span>they were invalid as drawn water when they went through the vessel .\u05db”\u05db \u05d4\u05e8\u05d0”\u05e9 \u05d5\u05e2\u05d9’ \u05de”\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e3 \u05d1’ \u05d3\u05dc”\u05ea \u05de\u05db\u05d0\u05df \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05ea\u05dd.<\/b><\/p>\n

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