{"id":2269,"date":"2021-06-24T20:35:53","date_gmt":"2021-06-24T20:35:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=2269"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:49","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:49","slug":"shiur-sukkah-23a-06-22-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=2269","title":{"rendered":"Shiur Sukkah 22b 06\/22\/21"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Sukkah 22b.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Tamuz 12, 5781. June 22, 2021<\/span><\/p>\n

1- Continued the Sugya of \u05d7\u05d1\u05d5\u05d8 \u05e8\u05de\u05d9. Basically, \u2018lowering\u2019 the upper planks into a space at a lower lever to create a contiguous cover.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\"Shulchan<\/p>\n

2- 3 opinions as to when we apply this rule.<\/span><\/p>\n

a – Rashi- the lower space does not need to be a \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

b – Ritva and <\/span>Ramo <\/span><\/a>in Shulchan Aruch (631, 5) – lower space needs to be at least a \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

c – Ritva – citing an opinion, it needs to be a perfect fit.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

3- The \u05e7\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 that creates a closed \u05de\u05d1\u05d5\u05d9. There are a few of these\u00a0 in Crown Heights.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Cases discussed: If it doesn\u2019t reach the opposite wall. 2 poles sticking out from both walls but do not touch each other.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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4 – We spoke about <\/span>Reb Chaim Tzimerman<\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Here<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>Chabad connection <\/span>here<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

5- Discussed the famous Maharil.<\/a> Actually the \u05dc\u05d9\u05e7\u05d5\u05d8\u05d9\u05dd at the end of this monumental book which is the primary source to the many \u05de\u05e0\u05d4\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd of Ashkenazim.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u05db\u05dc \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05d0 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d9\u05ea\u05de\u05e8 \u05de\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d5\u05e7\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d0\u05e1\u05de\u05db\u05ea\u05d0 \u05d1\u05e2\u05dc\u05de\u05d0’ \u05d4\u05db\u05d9 \u05e4\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05e9\u05d5 \u05d5\u05d3\u05d0\u05d9 \u05ea\u05e7\u05e0\u05ea\u05d0 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d5\u05d4\u05dd \u05d9\u05e6\u05d0\u05d5 \u05d5\u05d1\u05d3\u05e7\u05d5 \u05d5\u05de\u05e6\u05d0\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d4\u05dd \u05e1\u05de\u05da \u05de\u05e7\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d5\u05e1\u05de\u05db\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd \u05e2\u05dc\u05d9\u05d5 \u05db\u05d3\u05d9 \u05dc\u05d4\u05d7\u05d6\u05d9\u05e7\u05dd <\/span>\u05e9\u05d9\u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05e1\u05d1\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd<\/b> \u05d3\u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05de\u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 \u05d5\u05d9\u05d7\u05de\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d5 \u05d5\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d0\u05ea\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d6\u05dc\u05d5\u05dc \u05d5\u05dc\u05d4\u05e7\u05dc \u05d1\u05d3\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d7\u05db\u05de\u05d9\u05dd<\/span><\/p>\n

The sharp comment by Reb Yosef Engel who doubted that the \u05de\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u201d\u05dc\u00a0 ever said this. <\/span>\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05d0\u05d5\u05e6\u05e8 190<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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We discussed that we do indeed find places where the \u05d7\u05db\u05de\u05d9\u05dd\u00a0 proclaimed something in the name of a great \u05d7\u05db\u05dd in order for people to accept it. See Shabbos 115a.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Heard various differences between the above Gemara and what Reb Yosef Engel disapproved.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

To be continued with the \u05de\u05d2\u05df \u05d0\u05d1\u05e8\u05d4\u05dd\u2019s take on this.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

BSD Sukkah 22b.\u00a0 Tamuz 12, 5781. June 22, 2021 1- Continued the Sugya of \u05d7\u05d1\u05d5\u05d8 \u05e8\u05de\u05d9. Basically, \u2018lowering\u2019 the upper planks into a space at a lower lever to create a contiguous cover.\u00a0 2- 3 opinions as to when we apply this rule. a – Rashi- the lower space does not need to be a … Continue reading Shiur Sukkah 22b 06\/22\/21<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2269","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2269","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2269"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2269\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4096,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2269\/revisions\/4096"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2269"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2269"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2269"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}