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Sukkah 48b (2)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Shvat 16, 5783. February 7, 2023<\/span><\/p>\n

We continued the topic of \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\"\u05de\u05ea\u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd<\/p>\n

1- \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4\u00a0 – <\/span>And the appointee says to the one pouring the water into the silver basin: Raise your hand, so that his actions would be visible, as one time a \u05e6\u05d3\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9 intentionally poured the water on his feet, as the \u05e6\u05d3\u05d9\u05e7\u05d9\u05dd did not accept the oral tradition requiring \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd.\u00a0 In their rage all the people pelted him with their \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

The \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 in Yuma 26b<\/a> (below) quotes our Mishna to establish that \u05e0\u05d9\u05e1\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05de\u05d9\u05dd took place in the morning during \u05e9\u05d7\u05e8\u05d9\u05ea.\u00a0 As Rashi explains, the proof is from the \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd that were hurled at the \u05e6\u05d3\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u05d0\u05b8\u05de\u05b7\u05e8 \u05e8\u05b7\u05d1 \u05d0\u05b8\u05e9\u05c1\u05b5\u05d9, \u05d0\u05b7\u05e3 \u05d0\u05b2\u05e0\u05b7\u05df \u05e0\u05b8\u05de\u05b5\u05d9 \u05ea\u05bc\u05b0\u05e0\u05b5\u05d9\u05e0\u05b8\u05d0: \u05d5\u05b0\u05dc\u05b7\u05de\u05b0\u05e0\u05b7\u05e1\u05bc\u05b5\u05da\u05b0 \u05d0\u05d5\u05b9\u05de\u05b5\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d5\u05b9 \u05f4\u05d4\u05b7\u05d2\u05b0\u05d1\u05bc\u05b7\u05d4\u05bc \u05d9\u05b8\u05d3\u05b6\u05d9\u05da\u05b8\u05f4, \u05e9\u05c1\u05b6\u05e4\u05bc\u05b7\u05e2\u05b7\u05dd \u05d0\u05b7\u05d7\u05b7\u05ea \u05e0\u05b4\u05e1\u05bc\u05b5\u05da\u05b0 \u05e2\u05b7\u05dc \u05d2\u05bc\u05b7\u05d1\u05bc\u05b5\u05d9 \u05e8\u05b7\u05d2\u05b0\u05dc\u05b8\u05d9\u05d5, \u05d5\u05bc\u05e8\u05b0\u05d2\u05b8\u05de\u05d5\u05bc\u05d4\u05d5\u05bc \u05db\u05bc\u05c7\u05dc \u05d4\u05b8\u05e2\u05b8\u05dd \u05d1\u05bc\u05b0\u05d0\u05b6\u05ea\u05b0\u05e8\u05d5\u05b9\u05d2\u05b5\u05d9\u05d4\u05b6\u05df. \u05e9\u05c1\u05b0\u05de\u05b7\u05e2 \u05de\u05b4\u05d9\u05e0\u05bc\u05b7\u05d4\u05bc.<\/strong><\/div>\n
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Rav Ashi said: We too have learned<\/b> this in a different mishna, that the water libation was offered only in the morning, as it was taught: And they would say to the pourer: Raise your hand<\/b> so everyone will see as you pour the water into the aperture on the altar, in accordance with the proper procedure. This was done because one time<\/b> a Sadducee priest, who did not accept that there is a mitzva of water libation, poured<\/b> the water onto his feet,<\/b> whereupon all the people pelted him with their etrogim<\/i><\/b> in anger. Since the episode involved etrogim<\/i>, it is apparent that it took place in the morning, when people have their etrogim<\/i> with them. Since the mishna mentions the fact that it was etrogim<\/i> that were used to pelt the priest, it is apparently coming to teach that the water libation takes place only in the morning. The Gemara concludes: Indeed, learn from this<\/b> that it is so. In the morning is when people are holding on to their \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd.<\/strong>\u00a0<\/em><\/div>\n
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We mentioned the Ritvah that asks <\/span>there\u00a0:\u00a0 This incident occurred in \u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd where the Minhag of many was to walk around all day holding on to the \u2018\u05d3 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd. Sukka 41b.<\/p>\n

?\u05d5\u05d0\u05f4\u05ea \u05d5\u05d4\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d0\u05e0\u05e9\u05d9 \u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05e9\u05dc\u05dd \u05e0\u05d5\u05d8\u05dc\u05d9\u05df \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d5\u05dc\u05d1\u05d9\u05d4\u05df \u05db\u05dc \u05d4\u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05db\u05d3\u05d0\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 \u05d4\u05ea\u05dd<\/p>\n

The Ritva concludes that the proof is from the words \u2018<\/span>all the people pelted him with their \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2\u05d9\u05dd.<\/i><\/b> \u2018All the people\u2019 implies a time when there is a large crowd and not just individuals.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

2- We discussed the issue of using the Esrog to pelt someone. Besides the issue of \u05d1\u05d9\u05d6\u05d5\u05d9 \u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05df there is also the Mitzvah aspect of the Esrog; \u05d4\u05d5\u05e7\u05e6\u05d4 \u05dc\u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5 .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The above Ritva has an interesting line:<\/span><\/p>\n

\u05d5\u05d9\u05f4\u05dc \u05d3\u05d4\u05d0 \u05e4\u05e9\u05d9\u05f3 \u05d3\u05db\u05d9\u05d5\u05df \u05e9\u05d4\u05db\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d5 \u05e9\u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05e6\u05d3\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9 \u05d6\u05d4\u05d5 \u05db\u05d1\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5 \u05e9\u05dc \u05d0\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05d2 <\/strong>\u05dc\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 \u05d1\u05d5 \u05d4\u05e9\u05dd \u05dc\u05e2\u05e0\u05d9\u05df \u05db\u05d6\u05d4:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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3- We discussed the Yerushalmi that tries to figure out if the 3 \u05e6\u05d3\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9\u05dd stories in \u05e9\u201d\u05e1 were talking about the same fellow.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

1- Our Mishna with the \u05e6\u05d3\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9 not pouring the water properly.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

2- The \u05e6\u05d3\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9 who put the \u05e7\u05d8\u05d5\u05e8\u05ea on the coals prior to entering the \u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9 \u05e7\u05d3\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

3- The \u05e6\u05d3\u05d5\u05e7\u05d9 that dragged out the process of the burning the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d3\u05d5\u05de\u05d4 until after nightfall.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\"Red<\/p>\n

4- We discussed the cryptic \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0\u00a0 describing a seemingly foolish argument between two heretics call \u05e9\u05e9\u05d5\u05df \u05d5\u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05d4.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Anyone with a good explanation please come forth next week.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

5- The topic of always turning to the right in the \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 and when circling the \u05de\u05d6\u05d1\u05d7.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\"kohen<\/p>\n

6- Discussed the \u05de\u05d6\u05d1\u05d7 and the importance of it being perfectly square. See <\/span>here<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\"about<\/p>\n

7- The Yerushalmi in \u05e9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05ea and other places that:<\/span><\/p>\n