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\nShkolim 19a (2)
\nAdar 4, 5785 – 3\/04\/2025<\/p>\n
1- Continued from last week if money was found on the floor in the area of the 13 \u05e9\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea.<\/p>\n
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Since there are many levels in \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9, a coin found between these 13 \u05e9\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea (that are destined for different types of the \u05e2\u05d1\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5\u05ea in the \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9), there are specific rules on where to allocate them to.<\/p>\n
2- We \u2018scratched the scratch of the surface\u2019 on the large issue of \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7\u05d5\u05ea.
\nNamely, for all the \u05ea\u05e8\u05d9\u201d\u05d2 \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea where there is no doubt or question life is simple.<\/p>\n
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<\/li>\n<\/ul>\nHowever, in case of doubts, like \u2018is electricity considered fire?\u2019 \u2018is swordfish kosher?\u2019 or \u2018is 10 minutes before night considered day?\u2019 all of these fall into the category of \u05e1\u05e4\u05d9\u05e7\u05d5\u05ea.<\/p>\n
The same applies if we are unsure if for example: did I say \u05e9\u05de\u05e2? Or when we are unsure what the final \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 is. Is machine \u05de\u05e6\u05d4 is OK for the first night of \u05e4\u05e1\u05d7. Or one is unsure if he gave \u05de\u05d7\u05e6\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05e9\u05e7\u05dc.<\/p>\n
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Torah life is full of such \u05e1\u05e4\u05d9\u05e7\u05d5\u05ea.<\/p>\n
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3 – We mentioned that interestingly nowhere does the \u05ea\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 say explicitly, that when in doubt, if we should go \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 or \u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0.<\/p>\n
However there is the global rule that if the \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 is in regards to a \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d4 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0, we usually go \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0. On \u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d5\u05ea \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df we usually go \u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0.
\n\u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df \u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0<\/p>\n
Parenthetically, we mentioned the famous \u05de\u05d7\u05dc\u05d5\u05e7\u05ea between the \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u201d\u05dd and the \u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u201d\u05df if this rule itself is \u05de\u05df \u05d4\u05ea\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 or \u05de\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df. 4 – The above rule that \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05d5\u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df \u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0, obviously is only when we cannot resolve the \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7. If we have a piece of meat of unknown and unverifiable origin, [it is\u00a0 –\u00a0 \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 –\u00a0 \u00a0[\u05db\u05e9\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d5 \u05dc\u05d0, we go \u05dc\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d0, since it\u2019s a \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 question. If something is questionable if it\u2019s \u05d8\u05d1\u05dc (nowadays), then perhaps we go \u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05dc\u05d0.<\/p>\n Kosher?<\/em><\/p>\n But \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7\u05d5\u05ea can be resolved by verification. Such as witnesses (a Hechsher)\u00a0 stating that an item is Kosher. If a \u05d2\u05d8 is in question if it actually reached the woman\u2019s hand, witnesses can testify and the \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 is resolved.<\/p>\n 5 – There are other ways to establish a fact when in doubt.<\/p>\n We briefly discussed 3 of these methods; all three are \u05de\u05df \u05d4\u05ea\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4.<\/p>\n A – \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4. Roughly translated as \u2018status quo\u2019.<\/p>\n For example, if a \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d4 drops below 40 \u05e1\u05d0\u05d4 and we are unsure when this drop occurred. \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4 will tell us that we can assume that it had a full 40 \u05e1\u05d0\u05d4 up to the moment we realized that it was below 40.<\/p>\n B- \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1. That means we rely on statistics and nature. Since in the majority of cases the results are x, we can assume that this \u05e1\u05e4\u05e7 is also x. [Lungs are checked because lesions \u05e1\u05e8\u05db\u05d5\u05ea are common]<\/p>\n \u05d1\u05d3\u05d9\u05e7\u05ea \u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05d0\u05d4<\/p>\n C – \u05e7\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1. Location. If an object found on the street and we question\u00a0 to whom it belongs, \u05e7\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1 rules the person that lives closest to the location where it was found, has a strong case that it belongs to him.<\/p>\n 6 – We discussed the \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05e8 for all 3 above and what if two of the above point in opposite directions. Which one outweighs the other?<\/p>\n 7 – In general, these 3 types of verifications, the \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 is not telling us \u2018what actually the item is\u2019 or \u2018what actually happened\u2019.<\/p>\n For example, finding a piece of meat in a city that has mostly kosher butchers, the \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4, says that it can be eaten. But it does rule that it is a kosher piece of meat or that we are allowed to eat it?\u00a0 The consensus is that it just advises us that we can rely on the \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1 and eat it. We discussed this point at length.<\/p>\n Which store did the meat come from?<\/em><\/p>\n Ditto for \u05d7\u05d6\u05e8\u05d4 and \u05e7\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1.<\/p>\n F – However, we mentioned \u05e8\u2019 \u05d0\u05dc\u05d7\u05e0\u05df \u05d5\u05e1\u05e8\u05de\u05df<\/a> who says (\u05e7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e5 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e2\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1”\u05d1 \u05e1\u05d9’ \u05e2”\u05d7)\u00a0 that there is a difference between a \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4 and \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1. A \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4, as above, only tells you that \u2018follow the status quo\u2019.<\/p>\n For example: If a man throws a \u05d2\u05d8 to his wife and we are unsure if it reached her, we go after the \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4 that she is still an \u05d0\u05e9\u05ea \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9 since are unsure of what happened. But it\u2019s not that the \u05d7\u05d6\u05e7\u05d4 tells us that it did not reach her because she is an \u05d0\u05e9\u05ea \u05d0\u05d9\u05e9. For what has her current status to do with resolving the question if it reached her or not.<\/p>\n It\u2019s just that since we are in doubt, we leave her status as it is. The \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1 verifies and tells us that it is indeed a Kosher piece of meat.<\/p>\n These topics are deep and complicated. We mentioned them as a broad introduction to explain our \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 that says that we follow the rule of \u05e7\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1, as where to direct the coins found in the area of the \u05e9\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea.<\/p>\n Why not \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1? Why don\u2019t we check which \u05e9\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8 has the most coins?<\/p>\n To be continued.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" BSD Shkolim 19a (2) Adar 4, 5785 – 3\/04\/2025 1- Continued from last week if money was found on the floor in the area of the 13 \u05e9\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea. Since there are many levels in \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9, a coin found between these 13 \u05e9\u05d5\u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea (that are destined for different types of the \u05e2\u05d1\u05d5\u05d3\u05d5\u05ea in the \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9), … Continue reading Shiur Shkolim 19a (2) Adar 4, 5785 – 3\/04\/2025<\/span>
\nThe classic work on this topic is the \u05e9\u05d1 \u05e9\u05de\u05e2\u05ea\u05ea\u05d0<\/a>.<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/shev-shmaatsa-1.png\")
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\nFor example in \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d8\u05e8\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05ea: an animal is \u05d8\u05e8\u05d9\u05e3 if the membrane covering its brain is punctured. Now, do we need to check every animal if that is indeed so? The answer is that we rely on \u05e8\u05d5\u05d1. Being that by far, most cows and bulls do not have punctured skulls, there is no need to check them.<\/p>\n![\"\u05e1\u05d9\u05e8\u05db\u05d0](\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/7\/7f\/%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%90.jpg\")
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\n\u05e8\u05d5\u05d1 however verifies (to an extent) what the status is. Like in the example above of finding meat in a Jewish city.<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/kovetz-shiurim-bb.png\")
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