{"id":5048,"date":"2025-05-30T15:21:34","date_gmt":"2025-05-30T15:21:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=5048"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:46","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:46","slug":"shiur-shkolim-21b-iyar-28-5785-05-27-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=5048","title":{"rendered":"Shiur Shkolim 21b &#8211; Iyar 28, 5785 &#8211; 05\/27\/25"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>BSD<\/p>\n<p>Shkolim 21b<\/p>\n<p>Iyar 28, 5785 &#8211; 05\/27\/25<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Brief notes.<\/p>\n<p>1 &#8211;\u00a0 We discussed the general interaction between the \u2018learned\u2019 or \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd and the \u05e2\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 at the time when the laws of \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 and \u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d4 were practiced.<\/p>\n<p>If an \u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 would become \u05d8\u05de\u05d0\u00a0 by touching a \u05de\u05ea, then obviously his \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 (like anyone else) would be at the \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0 level.<\/p>\n<p>The \u05d7\u05db\u05de\u05d9\u05dd , seeing that lack of strictness by these people (in addition to lack of knowledge\u00a0 of \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d5\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d4),\u00a0 took this to another level by ruling that\u00a0 <strong><em><u>all<\/u><\/em><\/strong> \u05e2\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 by default,\u00a0 were considered to be not \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8. This \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 designation was a \u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df enactment.<\/p>\n<p>[This obviously caused much friction and didn\u2019t add to <em>camaraderie<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-5053\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-in-jerusalem.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"322\" height=\"322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-in-jerusalem.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-in-jerusalem-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-in-jerusalem-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-in-jerusalem-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 322px) 100vw, 322px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Even if an\u00a0 \u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 would claim that he kept the laws of \u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d4, he would not be believed, since they were clueless as to all the Halachic details of \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d5\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d4.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, for those that kept a lifestyle of \u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d4 , coming into contact with others that did not, was very problematic.<\/p>\n<p>Can they shake hands? Can they do business together? Can food be \u00a0purchased from them?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-5051\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/rabbi-shaking-hands.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"310\" height=\"310\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/rabbi-shaking-hands.png 2048w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/rabbi-shaking-hands-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/rabbi-shaking-hands-1024x1024.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/rabbi-shaking-hands-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/rabbi-shaking-hands-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/rabbi-shaking-hands-1536x1536.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 310px) 100vw, 310px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>2 &#8211; There were certain times and interactions where the \u05d7\u05db\u05de\u05d9\u05dd were lenient and allowed the \u05e2\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 to be considered \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8. Each case for a different reason.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>For example: An \u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 bringing wine or flour to the \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 would be accepted and presumed \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8 because we assume the holiness of the \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 would cause them to prepare and keep any \u05e0\u05d3\u05d1\u05d4\u00a0 as \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8. Alternatively, the reason is not to cause strife by not accepting it,\u00a0 which would cause them to bring \u05e7\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05d5\u05ea on a self made \u05d1\u05de\u05d4.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Another example: During the harvesting season of wine and olives. The \u05d7\u05db\u05de\u05d9\u05dd assumed that all producers ensured that they were \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8 so that their products would be sold and consumed by all, ie merchandising\/marketing. Once the season was over, they would revert back to a non \u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d4 state.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>3 &#8211; The topic we discussed wa<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-5054\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jew-bringing-flour-and-wine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"356\" height=\"356\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jew-bringing-flour-and-wine.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jew-bringing-flour-and-wine-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jew-bringing-flour-and-wine-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jew-bringing-flour-and-wine-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 356px) 100vw, 356px\" \/>s another time frame when all the\u00a0\u00a0 \u05e2\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5<\/p>\n<p>would be considered \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8 &#8211; during the \u05e9\u05dc\u05d5\u05e9 \u05e8\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd. This lenient time frame had an interesting post script. Any product that was touched by an \u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 during \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1 was \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8 and was allowed to be consumed by all.<\/p>\n<p>However, and here is the paradox: As soon as \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1 was over, any left over was considered \u05d8\u05de\u05d0!<\/p>\n<p>So if an \u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 placed, say a loaf of bread on the table, anyone could eat it because it was deemed \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8. However, after \u05d4\u05d1\u05d3\u05dc\u05d4, if there was a piece of the loaf left uneaten, it would be considered \u05d8\u05de\u05d0.<\/p>\n<p>How does that make sense?<\/p>\n<p>See here the Rambam&#8217;s words. <a href=\"https:\/\/rambam.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Metame'ei_Mishkav_uMoshav\/11.8#e0n6\">\u05de\u05d8\u05de\u05d0\u05d9<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/rambam.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Metame'ei_Mishkav_uMoshav\/11.8#e0n6\">\u05de\u05e9\u05db\u05d1<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/rambam.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Metame'ei_Mishkav_uMoshav\/11.8#e0n6\">\u05d5\u05de\u05d5\u05e9\u05d1<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/rambam.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Metame'ei_Mishkav_uMoshav\/11.8#e0n6\">\u05d8<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/rambam.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Metame'ei_Mishkav_uMoshav\/11.8#e0n6\">, <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/rambam.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Metame'ei_Mishkav_uMoshav\/11.8#e0n6\">\u05d9\u05d0<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05db\u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d4\u05d9\u05d0 \u05d7\u05e9\u05d5\u05d1\u05d4 \u05e9\u05db\u05dc \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05df \u05d1\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd \u05db\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd \u05d5\u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd \u05d5\u05de\u05e9\u05e7\u05d9\u05d4\u05df \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05de\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d4\u05db\u05dc \u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05df \u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc. \u05dc\u05e4\u05d9\u05db\u05da \u05d4\u05df \u05e0\u05d0\u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05dc \u05d9\u05de\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9 \u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05de\u05d4. \u05de\u05e9\u05e2\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05d7\u05d5\u05d6\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea\u05df:<\/p>\n<p>During the pilgrimage festivals, the impurity decreed upon the unlearned is suspended and they are considered as pure. For the entire Jewish people are considered as \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd during the pilgrimage festivals. All of their utensils, their food, and their liquids are considered as pure during the festivals, for everyone purifies themselves and ascends to Jerusalem on the festivals. Therefore their word is accepted &#8211; whether with regard to sacrificial foods or with regard to <em>terumah<\/em> &#8211; throughout the festivals.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-5056\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-celebrating-together.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"357\" height=\"357\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-celebrating-together.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-celebrating-together-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-celebrating-together-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/jews-celebrating-together-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 357px) 100vw, 357px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>After the festival passes, they are considered as impure again.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>4- The Rambam, by offering an interesting reason for this\u00a0 \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4\u00a0 &#8211; because\u00a0 \u2018<strong>everyone purifies themselves and ascends to Jerusalem on the festivals<\/strong><strong>\u2019<\/strong> makes it even more perplexing.<\/p>\n<p>If everyone goes thru the process of becoming \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8 [with \u05de\u05d9 \u05d7\u05d8\u05d0\u05ea etc] why does their food automatically become \u05d8\u05de\u05d0 right after \u05d4\u05d1\u05d3\u05dc\u05d4?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-5057\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/after-havdalah.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"295\" height=\"295\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/after-havdalah.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/after-havdalah-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/after-havdalah-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/after-havdalah-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 295px) 100vw, 295px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>5 &#8211; We discussed \u00a0various explanation of the Rambam and the Rebbe\u2019s unique idea on this.<\/p>\n<p>Synopsys in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chabad.org.il\/ParashotArticles\/Item.asp?ArticleID=597&amp;CategoryID=78&amp;ParashaID=26\">Hebrew<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0 .<a href=\"https:\/\/chabadlibrary.org\/books\/1301790071\">\u05dc\u05e7\u05d5\u05d8\u05d9<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/chabadlibrary.org\/books\/1301790071\">\u05e9\u05d9\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/chabadlibrary.org\/books\/1301790071\">\u05dc\u05d6<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/chabadlibrary.org\/books\/1301790071\">, <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/chabadlibrary.org\/books\/1301790071\">\u05e2<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/chabadlibrary.org\/books\/1301790071\">&#8216; 20 <\/a><\/p>\n<p>Briefly, the Rebbe says that the fact that all \u05e2\u05dd \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc come together in one place, during \u05e9\u05dc\u05d5\u05e9 \u05e8\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd , created a \u2018new entity\u2019. The individuals lose their identity and jointly create a new \u05db\u05dc\u05dc. [Not unlike \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05d7\u05d5\u05d9\u2019 \u05d1\u05e6\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e8]<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-5061\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/sukkah-with-many-jews.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"373\" height=\"373\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/sukkah-with-many-jews.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/sukkah-with-many-jews-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/sukkah-with-many-jews-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/sukkah-with-many-jews-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 373px) 100vw, 373px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So in a sense, there are no \u05e2\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 during that period when all become \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd and everything is deemed \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8. But this phenomenon lasts only during \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1.<\/p>\n<p>For when \u05d9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d8\u05d5\u05d1 ends each person becomes unique and an individual \u05d9\u05d7\u05d9\u05d3.<\/p>\n<p>In regards to \u05e9\u05d1\u05ea:<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\" dir=\"rtl\"><span class=\"s1\">\u05e8\u05de\u05d1\u201d\u05dd, \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05e2\u05e9\u05e8, \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8\u2019, \u05d4\u05dc\u05db\u05d4 \u05d8\u201d\u05d6<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\" dir=\"rtl\"><span class=\"s1\">\u201c\u05d5\u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05d4\u05d0\u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5\u05d4\u05d5 \u05d1\u05e9\u05d1\u05ea? \u05de\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05db\u05d1\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d4\u05e9\u05d1\u05ea, \u05e9\u05d0\u05dd \u05dc\u05d0 \u05ea\u05d0\u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d4\u05d5 \u05d9\u05de\u05e0\u05e2 \u05de\u05dc\u05d0\u05db\u05d5\u05dc \u2013 \u05d5\u05e0\u05de\u05e6\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d5\u05e9\u05d1 \u05d1\u05ea\u05e2\u05e0\u05d9\u05ea, \u05d5\u05dc\u05e4\u05d9\u05db\u05da \u05d4\u05e7\u05d9\u05dc\u05d5 \u05e2\u05dc\u05d9\u05d5. \u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3 \u05d0\u05de\u05e8\u05d5: \u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 \u05d0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05de\u05e9\u05e7\u05e8 \u05d1\u05e9\u05d1\u05ea.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>6 &#8211; The <a href=\"https:\/\/yerushalmi.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Shekalim\/30.1#e0n6\">next<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/yerushalmi.alhatorah.org\/Full\/Shekalim\/30.1#e0n6\">\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4<\/a> has an interesting line relating to the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea\u00a0 that separated the \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05dc and the \u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9 \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd.<\/p>\n<p>\u05e8\u05b7\u05d1\u05b8\u05bc\u05df \u05e9\u05b4\u05c1\u05de\u05b0\u05e2\u05d5\u05b9\u05df \u05d1\u05b6\u05bc\u05df \u05d2\u05b7\u05bc\u05de\u05b0\u05dc\u05b4\u05d9\u05d0\u05b5\u05dc \u05d0\u05d5\u05b9\u05de\u05b5\u05e8 \u05de\u05b4\u05e9\u05b5\u05bc\u05c1\u05dd \u05e8\u05b7\u05d1\u05b4\u05bc\u05d9 \u05e9\u05b4\u05c1\u05de\u05b0\u05e2\u05d5\u05b9\u05df \u05d1\u05b6\u05bc\u05df \u05d4\u05b7\u05e1\u05b0\u05bc\u05d2\u05b7\u05df \u05e4\u05b8\u05bc\u05e8\u05d5\u05b9\u05db\u05b6\u05ea \u05e2\u05d5\u05b9\u05d1\u05b0\u05d9\u05b8\u05d4\u05bc \u05d8\u05b6\u05e4\u05b7\u05d7 \u05e2\u05b7\u05dc \u05e9\u05b4\u05c1\u05d1\u05b0\u05e2\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05bc\u05e9\u05b0\u05c1\u05ea\u05b7\u05bc\u05d9\u05b4\u05dd \u05e0\u05b4\u05d9\u05de\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd \u05e0\u05b6\u05d0\u05b1\u05e8\u05b6\u05d2\u05b6\u05ea \u05e2\u05b7\u05dc \u05db\u05b8\u05bc\u05dc \u05e0\u05b4\u05d9\u05de\u05b8\u05d4 \u05d5\u05b0\u05e0\u05b4\u05d9\u05de\u05b8\u05d4 \u05e2\u05b6\u05e9\u05b0\u05c2\u05e8\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05b0\u05d0\u05b7\u05e8\u05b0\u05d1\u05b8\u05bc\u05e2\u05b8\u05d4 \u05d7\u05d5\u05bc\u05d8\u05b4\u05d9\u05df. \u05d0\u05b8\u05e8\u05b0\u05db\u05b8\u05bc\u05d4\u05bc \u05d0\u05b7\u05e8\u05b0\u05d1\u05b8\u05bc\u05e2\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05b7\u05de\u05b8\u05bc\u05d4 \u05d5\u05b0\u05e8\u05b8\u05d7\u05b0\u05d1\u05b8\u05bc\u05d4\u05bc \u05e2\u05b6\u05e9\u05b0\u05c2\u05e8\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05bc\u05de\u05b4\u05e9\u05b0\u05bc\u05c1\u05de\u05d5\u05b9\u05e0\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05bc\u05e9\u05b0\u05c1\u05ea\u05b5\u05bc\u05d9 \u05e8\u05b4\u05d1\u05bc\u05d5\u05b9\u05d0 \u05d4\u05b8\u05d9\u05b0\u05ea\u05b8\u05d4 \u05e0\u05b7\u05e2\u05b2\u05e9\u05b5\u05c2\u05d9\u05ea. \u05d5\u05bc\u05e9\u05b0\u05c1\u05ea\u05b7\u05bc\u05d9\u05b4\u05dd \u05e2\u05d5\u05b9\u05e9\u05b4\u05c2\u05d9\u05df \u05d1\u05b0\u05bc\u05db\u05b8\u05dc \u05e9\u05b8\u05c1\u05e0\u05b8\u05d4 \u05d5\u05bc\u05e9\u05b0\u05c1\u05dc\u05b9\u05e9\u05c1 \u05de\u05b5\u05d0\u05d5\u05b9\u05ea \u05db\u05b9\u05bc\u05d4\u05b2\u05e0\u05b4\u05d9\u05dd \u05de\u05b7\u05d8\u05b0\u05d1\u05b4\u05bc\u05d9\u05dc\u05b4\u05d9\u05df \u05d0\u05d5\u05b9\u05ea\u05b8\u05d4\u05bc.<\/p>\n<p>Rabban Simeon ben Gamliel says in the name of Rebbi Simeon, the son of the Executive Officer of the Temple: The thickness of the\u00a0 \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea\u00a0 was \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7. It was woven on 72 strings and each string was composed of 24 threads. Its length 40 cubits and its width 20 cubits; it was made for 820\u2019000 {denar}. Two were made every year and 300 Cohanim were involved immersing it in the \u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05d4.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5062\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/paroches.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/paroches.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/paroches-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/paroches-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/paroches-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/paroches-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/paroches-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>300 \u05db\u05d4\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd holding the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea? The \u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 says in \u05ea\u05de\u05d9\u05d3 that the number 300 is an exaggeration.<\/p>\n<p>There is a brilliant explanation of the number 300 attributed to the \u05d2\u05e8\u201d\u05d0.<\/p>\n<p>As we learned earlier (16a) in our \u05de\u05e1\u05db\u05ea\u05d0 there is an opinion that there were 2 types of \u05d0\u05de\u05d5\u05ea.<\/p>\n<p>One used for the \u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd which was 5 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd and another of\u00a0 6 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd which was used for measuring the building of the structure of the \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d4\u05de\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9.<\/p>\n<p>Now, as the \u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 states\u00a0 the size of the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea was 40 x 20 amos. Since the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea\u00a0 was a \u05db\u05dc\u05d9 it means that these \u05d0\u05de\u05d5\u05ea\u00a0 were of 5 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd.<\/p>\n<p>That means that the length and width of the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea was 200 x 100 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd and the entire perimeter\u00a0 600 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd.<\/p>\n<p>So 300 \u05db\u05d4\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd using both hands to move and dip the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea equals 600 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd\u2026..<\/p>\n<p>7 &#8211; However, as many have pointed out there is an issue with this calculation.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.independent.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/article\/2022\/04\/math_wrong_149676821_m_1200x650.jpg\" alt=\"Critical Math\u201d Doesn't Add Up: Policy Report \u2013 Independent Institute\" \/><\/p>\n<p>True, \u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd were measured with an\u00a0 \u05d0\u05de\u05d4 of 5 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd. But the measurement of the\u00a0 \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea was given to correspond to the width and length of the opening of the door way that separated the \u05d4\u05d9\u05db\u05dc from the \u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9 \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd which was also 40 x 20.\u00a0 \u05de\u05d3\u05d5\u05ea \u05e4\u201d\u05d3.<\/p>\n<p>And that space, since it was part of the building was measured with an \u05d0\u05de\u05d4 of 6 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd!<\/p>\n<p>So the actual perimeter of the \u05e4\u05e8\u05d5\u05db\u05ea was 720 \u05d8\u05e4\u05d7\u05d9\u05dd.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p>Here are some brief notes of the \u05e9\u05d9\u05d7\u05d4 above.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u05dc\u05d6, \u05e9\u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9 \u05d0.<\/p>\n<p>\u05db\u05dc \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/rambam.aspx?sefer=10&amp;rtype=%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%98&amp;hilchos=59&amp;perek=11&amp;halocha=9\">\u05e8\u05de\u05d1<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/rambam.aspx?sefer=10&amp;rtype=%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%98&amp;hilchos=59&amp;perek=11&amp;halocha=9\">&#8220;<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/rambam.aspx?sefer=10&amp;rtype=%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%98&amp;hilchos=59&amp;perek=11&amp;halocha=9\">\u05dd<\/a> \u05de\u05d8\u05de\u05d0\u05d9 \u05de\u05e9\u05db\u05d1 \u05d5\u05de\u05d5\u05e9\u05d1 \u05d9\u05d0, \u05d8 : \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05db\u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d4\u05d9\u05d0 \u05d7\u05e9\u05d5\u05d1\u05d4 \u05e9\u05db\u05dc \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05df \u05d1\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd \u05db\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd \u05d5\u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd \u05d5\u05de\u05e9\u05e7\u05d9\u05d4\u05df \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05de\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05e9\u05d4\u05db\u05dc \u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05df \u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc. \u05dc\u05e4\u05d9\u05db\u05da \u05d4\u05df \u05e0\u05d0\u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05dc \u05d9\u05de\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9 \u05d1\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05de\u05d4. \u05de\u05e9\u05e2\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e8\u05d2\u05dc \u05d7\u05d5\u05d6\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea\u05df:<\/p>\n<p>\u05d5\u05e6&#8221;\u05e2, \u05d0\u05dd \u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05df \u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05d7\u05d5\u05d6\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05dc\u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea\u05dd?<\/p>\n<p>\u05d5\u05e8\u05e9&#8221;\u05d9 \u05e4\u05d9&#8217; \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d1\u05d9\u05d9\u05e9.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/rambam.aspx?rtype=%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%98&amp;mfid=103976&amp;rid=10937\">\u05d1\u05de\u05dc<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/rambam.aspx?rtype=%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%98&amp;mfid=103976&amp;rid=10937\">&#8220;<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/rambam.aspx?rtype=%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%98&amp;mfid=103976&amp;rid=10937\">\u05de<\/a> \u05e4\u05d9&#8217; \u05e2\u05d9\u05e7\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d8\u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d0\u05d9\u05d1\u05d4 (\u05db\u05de\u05d5 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d0\u05de\u05e0\u05d9\u05df \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4 \u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05e7\u05d5\u05d3\u05e9) \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05d1\u05e0\u05d4 \u05db&#8221;\u05d0 \u05d1\u05de\u05d4 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05d5.\u00a0 \u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05dc\u05e4\u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 \u05d4\u05e2\u05d9\u05e7\u05e8 \u05d7\u05e1\u05e8 \u05de\u05df \u05d4\u05e1\u05e4\u05e8. \u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05d3, \u05e9\u05dd \u05db\u05ea\u05d1 \u05d4\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05d4\u05d8\u05e2\u05dd (\u05dc\u05d0 \u05db\u05de&#8221;\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e9&#8221;\u05e1 \u05d7\u05d2\u05d9\u05d2\u05d4 \u05db\u05d1, \u05d0 \u05de\u05e9\u05d5\u05dd \u05d0\u05d9\u05d1\u05d4, \u05d0\u05dc\u05d0) \u05de\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05ea\u05d5.<\/p>\n<p>\u05d5\u05d1\u05e4\u05e8&#8221;\u05d7 \u05e4\u05d9&#8217; \u05e9\u05d9\u05e9 \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea \u05de\u05ea, \u05d3\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05d9\u05ea\u05d0, \u05d5\u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4, \u05de\u05d3\u05e8\u05d1\u05e0\u05df. \u05d5\u05e2&#8221;\u05d6 \u05db\u05ea\u05d1 \u05d4\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05e9\u05de\u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05ea \u05de\u05ea- \u05de\u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d9\u05df \u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05df, \u05d5\u05d8\u05de\u05d0\u05ea \u05e2&#8221;\u05d4 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05d2\u05d6\u05e8\u05d5 \u05de\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9 \u05e9\u05de\u05d7\u05ea \u05d9\u05d5&#8221;\u05d8, \u05d5\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d6\u05d5 \u05e0\u05e9\u05d0\u05e8\u05ea \u05d0\u05d7\u05e8\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d7\u05d2. \u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05d2&#8221;\u05d6 \u05e6&#8221;\u05e2 &#8211; \u05d5\u05db\u05e0&#8221;\u05dc \u05d4\u05e2\u05d9\u05e7\u05e8 \u05d7\u05e1\u05e8 \u05de\u05df \u05d4\u05e1\u05e4\u05e8.<\/p>\n<p>\u05d5\u05d4\u05d4\u05e1\u05d1\u05e8 \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0: \u05de\u05d4\u05e4\u05e1\u05d5\u05e7 \u05db\u05dc \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05e9\u05e0\u05d0\u05e1\u05e4\u05d9\u05dd \u05d1\u05de&#8221;\u05d0, \u05de\u05ea\u05d1\u05d8\u05dc\u05ea \u05de\u05e6\u05d9\u05d0\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05d9\u05d7\u05d9\u05d3.\u00a0 \u05db\u05dc\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 \u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05db\u05d5\u05d5\u05e0\u05ea\u05d5 (\u05e8\u05e7 \u05de\u05e4\u05e0\u05d9) \u05e9\u05db\u05dc \u05d0\u05d7\u05d3 \u05d5\u05d0&#8217; \u05d8\u05d9\u05d4\u05e8 \u05e2\u05e6\u05de\u05d5. \u05e8\u05e7 \u05e9\u05e2\u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 \u05d4\u05e6\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e8 \u05e0\u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8. \u05e2&#8221;\u05d3 \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 \u05d3\u05d7\u05d5\u05d9&#8217; \u05d1\u05e6\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e8.<\/p>\n<p>\u05d4\u05e2&#8217;\u00a0 48 &#8211; \u05dc\u05e4\u05d9&#8221;\u05d6 \u05d2\u05dd \u05d0\u05dc\u05d5 \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05e2\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d8\u05d4\u05d5\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd. \u05d5\u05dc\u05db\u05df \u05dc\u05d0 \u05d4\u05d6\u05db\u05d9\u05e8 \u05d4\u05e8\u05de\u05d1&#8221;\u05dd \u05e9\u05d6\u05d4 \u05e8\u05e7 \u05d1\u05d9\u05e8\u05d5\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05de\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BSD Shkolim 21b Iyar 28, 5785 &#8211; 05\/27\/25 &nbsp; Brief notes. 1 &#8211;\u00a0 We discussed the general interaction between the \u2018learned\u2019 or \u05d7\u05d1\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd and the \u05e2\u05de\u05d9 \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 at the time when the laws of \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 and \u05d8\u05d4\u05e8\u05d4 were practiced. If an \u05e2\u05dd \u05d4\u05d0\u05e8\u05e5 would become \u05d8\u05de\u05d0\u00a0 by touching a \u05de\u05ea, then obviously his \u05d8\u05d5\u05de\u05d0\u05d4 (like &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=5048\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Shiur Shkolim 21b &#8211; Iyar 28, 5785 &#8211; 05\/27\/25<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5048","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5048","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5048"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5048\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5067,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5048\/revisions\/5067"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5048"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5048"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5048"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}