{"id":874,"date":"2017-07-09T15:26:23","date_gmt":"2017-07-09T15:26:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=874"},"modified":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T18:04:52","slug":"shiur-070417-beitzah-22b-23a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shiurpoints.com\/?p=874","title":{"rendered":"Shiur 07\/04\/17 – Beitzah 22b – 23a"},"content":{"rendered":"

Beitza 22b-23a<\/span><\/p>\n

1- We learned the \u00a0Mishnah that cites three lenient ruling of R\u2019 Gamliel. <\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

The Gemara begins with the second one concerning the permissibility, according to R\u2019 Gamliel, of burning incense on Yom Tov. <\/span><\/p>\n

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2- Generally, there are three purposes when one burns incense:<\/span><\/p>\n

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  1. To produce a pleasant aroma in a particular area. <\/span><\/li>\n
  2. To perfume a garment.<\/span><\/li>\n
  3. To infuse edibles with the scent of the incense. (Like smoking fruits). \u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    3- Our Gemara clarifies the leniency of R\u2019 Gamliel stating that it pertains to creating a pleasant aroma <\/span>only<\/span><\/i>. (A above). <\/span><\/p>\n

    The Rabbanan argue and prohibit it since burning incense is not something universally enjoyed. <\/span><\/p>\n

    The permissibility to do a Melacha of \u00a0\u05d0\u05d5\u05db\u05dc \u05e0\u05e4\u05e9 is only when a majority of people actually enjoy it. The burning of incense is limited to \u2018fein-shmekers\u2019. Quite literally. <\/span><\/p>\n

    Perfuming a garment (B above) is prohibited by all. <\/span><\/p>\n

    4- The Gemara now discusses the smoking of fruits. (C above): Rav prohibits it because not everybody likes incense-infused fruits. <\/span><\/p>\n

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    Shmuel permits it since the reason people don\u2019t smoke fruits is because it is rather expensive. If they would have the means, they would surely do it. (Just like shechting deer is permitted on Yom Tov although it is very uncommon). <\/span><\/p>\n

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    5- In general, there are 3 issues with the placing the incense upon coal or fire. <\/span><\/p>\n

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    1. \u05db\u05d9\u05d1\u05d5\u05d9 – Extinguishing the coal. This occurs right at the start. <\/span><\/li>\n
    2. \u05de\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e8 – The actual burning of the incense. <\/span><\/li>\n
    3. \u05de\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05d3 \u05e8\u05d9\u05d7\u05d0 – \u2018Creating a new scent\u2019. \u00a0. \u00a0We learned the Rashi that explains this concept as being \u2018close to a \u05de\u05dc\u05d0\u05db\u05d4\u2018.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      BL\u201dN, we will continue next week trying to understand the Alter Rebbe <\/span>here<\/span><\/a>. <\/span><\/p>\n

      6 We diverged to the issue of smoking cigarettes on Yom Tov. The Magen Avraham (<\/span>514.4<\/span><\/a>) prohibits it. Either because of \u00a0\u05de\u05db\u05d1\u05d4 \u00a0or because not everyone enjoys smoking. <\/span><\/p>\n

      The Penei Yohushua<\/a> and Reb Yonoson Eibeshyts permit it because it has \u2018medical benefits\u2019!<\/span><\/p>\n

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      The PRI MEGADIM (OC 511) points out that an additional problem is involved when there is printing or letters on the outside of the cigarette wrapper, and by smoking one destroys those letters and transgresses the Melochah of \u05de\u05d5\u05d7\u05e7 (erasing). Because of this concern, some people who smoke on Yom Tov do not finish the cigarette when it burns down to the letters, but they let it burn by itself so that they should not transgress the Melachah of \u05de\u05d5\u05d7\u05e7.<\/span><\/p>\n

      We discussed an interesting questions: Someone that throws a book into a fire on Shabbos, is he performing (in addition to \u00a0\u05de\u05d1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e8 , \u00a0also) \u00a0\u05de\u05d5\u05d7\u05e7?<\/span><\/p>\n

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      7- We continued to discuss the \u00a0\u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

      Mentioned the \u2018Rebbe of Shatz\u2019 that lived in London. His grave in Enfield UK is frequented by many on Fridays. See \u00a0\u00a0<\/span>here<\/span><\/a>. \u00a0And <\/span>here<\/span><\/a>. <\/span><\/p>\n

      He published a book \u05d3\u05e2\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc\u05d5\u05dd explaining the \u05e4\u05e8\u05e7 \u05e9\u05d9\u05e8\u05d4. \u00a0\u00a0Page 109.<\/span><\/p>\n

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      Discussing the spider he brings the \u2018tale of old Jewish women\u2019 that the spider contributed to the destruction of the Beis Hamikdosh! <\/span><\/p>\n

      He proposes a Midrash that uses the spider as a symbol of \u00a0\u05de\u05dc\u05db\u05d5\u05ea \u05d0\u05d3\u05d5\u05dd \u00a0– the Romans. <\/span><\/p>\n

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      He also write that \u2018I heard that spiders have a cross on their back\u2019! <\/span><\/p>\n

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      See http:\/\/beta.hebrewbooks.org\/pdfpager.aspx?req=42494&st=&pgnum=144<\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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      8- Speaking of crosses\u2026\u2026We mentioned a letter from the Rebbe to a scion of the <\/span>Sassoon family<\/span><\/a>. See <\/span>here<\/span><\/a>. We discussed their <\/span>famed library<\/span><\/a> in Bombay etc. <\/span><\/p>\n

      The letter. AG 10, page 199.<\/p>\n

      Salamon David Sassoon, an author, [See <\/span>here<\/span><\/a>] \u00a0sent \u00a0the Rebbe a pamphlet concerning Shechita. The Rebbe <\/span>thanked <\/span><\/a>him for the gift.<\/span><\/p>\n

      At the end of the letter the Rebbe writes \u201cplease note that one of the symbols you used in the pamphlet are avoided by others\u201d!<\/span><\/p>\n

      The Rebbe was referring to an \u00a0Obelisk\/Dagger that looks like a cross. See <\/span>here<\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

      The copy sent by the author is currently in the Agudas Chasidei Chabad Library.<\/p>\n

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      Here <\/span><\/a>is a reference to the book. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

      https:\/\/search.cjh.org\/primo-explore\/search?query=any,contains,194921&sortby=date&vid=beta&facet=frbrgroupid,include,50658070&offset=0<\/p>\n