Shiur Brochos 8a (3) – 8b Nisan 6, 5786 – 03/25/2026

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Brochos 8a (3) – 8b

Nisan 6, 5786. 03/25/2026

A few notes on topics covered.

1 – וַאֲמַר רִבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַמֵי מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּעוּלָּא: גָּדוֹל הַנֶּהֱנֶה מִיְּגִיעוֹ יוֹתֵר מִיְּרֵא שָׁמַיִם,

One who benefits from his hard labor is greater than a God-fearing person.

The interesting explanation of the של”ה הקדוש that this is referring to 2 types of רבנים.

There are those that are truly יראי שמים and therefore generally rule לחומרא.

On the other hand there are those that labor and study until they find a היתר.

They are greater than the יראי שמים!

של”ה מסכת שבועות פרק נר מצוה.

2 – The saga of שמעי בן גרא. His greatness in being the ראש הסנהדרין, the rocks hurled at דוד המלך, his pardon by דוד, the צוואה of דוד to שלמה המלך to punish שמעי, the semi pardon by שלמה prohibiting שמעי from leaving ירושלים, the punishment he finally received when he left the city.

Our גמרא says that one should always live near his Rebbe.

לְעוֹלָם יָדוּר אָדָם בִּמְקוֹם רַבּוֹ, שֶׁכָּל זְמַן שֶׁשִּׁמְעִי בֶּן גֵּרָא קַיָּים, לֹא נָשָׂא שְׁלֹמֹה אֶת בַּת פַּרְעֹה.

One should always live in the place where his teacher lives; thereby he will avoid sin. For as long as Shimi ben Gera, who according to tradition was a great Torah scholar and teacher of Solomon, was alive, Solomon did not marry Pharaoh’s daughter. Immediately after the Bible relates the death of Shimi, Solomon’s marriage to Pharaoh’s daughter is recorded.

What is perplexing is how is a person with such a history (rock throwing on דוד, with instructions from דוד to his son שלמה to avenge this rebel), still be שלמה’s teacher, be the ראש הסנהדרין and is credited  in being the ‘holdback’ to שלמה not to marry בת פרעה? 

Searching for an answer.

3 – The גמרא discusses the איסור of leaving a Shul while a ספר תורה is open.

Here is the הלכה: OC 146.

Mentioned the מנהג of the Rebbe who would wait (Shabbos by מנחה) until the curtain of the ארון קודש was completely closed before starting שמונה עשרה.

Occasionally the crowd in the back of 770, upon hearing the last אמן from the חזן, would start and reach almost to the end of שמונה עשרה, unaware that the Rebbe was still waiting for the ארון קודש to be fully closed!

3 – The next topic in our גמרא of  שנים מקרא ואחד תרגום is very wide and interesting.

When finishing the סדרה after saying twice מקרא and once תרגום, the Alter Rebbe (OC 285, 3) writes that one should end off with מקרא by repeating the last פסוק again.

ופסוק האחרון טוב לכופלו ולחזור ולאמרו כדי לסיים בתורהכג (כי כן בזמן שהיו מתרגמין היו מסיימים במקרא שהיו כופלים פסוק האחרוןכד):

That is how many still do it and also in Chabad did so for hundreds of years, until the  רשימות –   were printed. Surprisingly, the Rebbe writes that one should not repeat the last פסוק! 

156   רשימות

So what does one do? Say it or not?

We suggested (half in jest) a solution based on an interesting historical fact. After eating מזונות, when saying על המחיה, we conclude with, as the Alter Rebbe writes: ברוך אתה ה’ על הארץ ועל המחיה

There are other opinions that say to conclude

with

בָּרוּךְ אַתָּה אֲדֹנָי, עַל הָאָרֶץ

וְעַל הַמִּחְיָה וְעַל הַכַּלְכָּלָה

See או”ח רה, מג“א ס“ק יח ויד אפרים

The opinion of Reb Levi Yitzchok of Berdichev was to add the וְעַל הַכַּלְכָּלָה.

However, being that the Alter Rebbe was his מחותן, he would say:

על הארץ ועל המחיה….. and then add ועל הכלכלה the מחותן says not to say!

The Rebbe related this מנהג at a Farbrengen.   אחש”פ תשכ”ג.

​This was actually the מנהג in Berdichev until WWII.

So perhaps we should indeed say the last פסוק again when being מעביר סדרה (as per the AR in his Shulchan Aruch) but adding ‘and the repeating of this last פסוק it says in רשימות not to say….

B – Mentioned the Alter Rebbe  אדה“ז סעי‘ ב, ובקו“א שם, that if being מעביר סדרה by saying the חומש twice and for the תרגום saying רש”י, one would need to say חומש a third time since there are many פסוקים without רש”י. Even where there is רש”י he does not explain every word!

4-

The many versions of a fascinating story…….

The actual story in short:

A Rov was once forced by a cheese producer/exporter to issue a הכשר on cheese which was not Kosher. Having no choice, the Rov wrote out a ‘הכשר’ but added in code that his הכשר is being written because he was threatened.

This Rov was hoping that someone would decipher his code and not allow the cheese to be eaten. 

The code was in the format of the date that he added to his הכשר.

When this cheese arrived to the city to be marketed, the local Rov, upon inspection of this הכשר, picked up on the code and forced the producer/exporter to admit to his extortion and fraud.

The Rov dated his הכשר with the words

לפרשת שמו”ת מתניכם חגורים

On the surface it looked innocent enough since it was customary to add to the date of a letter a reference to the weekly portion by quoting a פסוק from it.  The extortionist didn’t pick this up.

The Rov hinted, by writing שמו”ת (meaning שנים מקרא ואחד תרגום, and not simply שמות) that one should check the תרגום on the words מׇתְנֵיכֶ֣ם חֲגֻרִ֔ים, which means: ה’ tells בני ישראל – be ready to leave מצרים by having your belts tight around your waists, shoes on and walking stick in your hands. 

And the תרגום translates as חַרְצֵיכוֹן יְהוֹן אֲסִירִין, meaning ‘your robes should tight be with a belt’. 

However, as we find elsewhere, חַרְצֵיכוֹן can also mean cheese.

Thus,  חַרְצֵיכוֹן יְהוֹן אֲסִירִין can also mean ‘your cheese is prohibited’!  

Here is the sheet we used to understand this code.

What is interesting is that this exact story is told about different great Rabbonim that lived hundreds of years and miles apart!

Here are 4 versions of it:

 

There were more topics discussed which we will post BLN after the next Shiur.

חג כשר ושמח.

 

 

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Hebrew notes

עטרות ודיבון – רש”י, תוס’. ט”ז רפ”ה. אדה“ז סעי‘ ב, ובקו“א שם.

פסוק אחרון- שו“ע ‘טוב…’ . אבל ראה רשימות קנו. ועל הכלכלה, מחותן ניט. או”ח רה, מג“א ס“ק יח ויד אפרים. אחש”פ כג.

 

פמ”ג

סיפור הגבינה. מקלכם בידכם.

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Shiur Brochos 8a (2) – Adar 21, 5786. 03/10/2026

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Brochos 8a (2)

Adar 21, 5786. 03/10/2026

Short notes

1- ״עַל זֹאת יִתְפַּלֵּל כָּל חָסִיד אֵלֶיךָ לְעֵת מְצֹא״

A person needs to pray that when the time comes for him to ‘find’, he should choose well.

‘Find’ what? The גמרא offers a few idea on what this ‘find’ is.

Marriage, Torah, death, burial and restroom.

Prayers: Answered.

אָמַר רִבִּי חֲנִינָא: ״לְעֵת מְצֹא״, זוֹ אִשָּׁה, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״מָצָא אִשָּׁה, מָצָא טוֹב״

So it means when the time comes to ‘find’ a wife. Then יִתְפַּלֵּל כָּל חָסִיד so it should be טוב; finding a good wife.

On the other hand, we find the word מצא associated with a wife that is less than good.

״וּמוֹצֶא אֲנִי מַר מִמָּוֶת אֶת הָאִשָּׁה״, I find wife that is more painful than death. Ouch.

So basically our גמרא categorizes marriages into two types: מָצָא and מוֹצֶא.

The first refers to a pleasant wife and the second – less than pleasant.

My father was right!

2- It continues by relating an interesting  מנהג of ארץ ישראל where after a wedding, people would ask the חתן: ‘so how is your marriage? מָצָא and מוֹצֶא?’

3- We mentioned various דרשות on this topic of מָצָא and מוֹצֶא.

One from the Aruch Laner –   מָצָא טוֹב means that it occurs once in a while.  מוֹצֶא on the other hand, means that it’s more common…

The חפץ חיים takes issue with the חתן speaking לשון הרע about his wife….

The מהרש”א says that איש equals 311. אשה equals 306. Normally, the husband has an ‘advantage’.

[גמטריא- לשון יווני. תוי״ט אבות ג, יח – ונראה לי שהוא שם מושאל ולקוח מלשון יון שקוראים כן לחכמת המדידה והתשבורת.]

The פסוק says  ״וּמוֹצֶא אֲנִי מַר מִמָּוֶת אֶת הָאִשָּׁה״ (I find wife that is more painful than death). Here the אִשָּׁה is הָאִשָּׁה, she also equals 311. That ‘equality’ may cause וּמוֹצֶא אֲנִי מַר מִמָּוֶת אֶת הָאִשָּׁה…

The עין יעקב says that it meant not to ask the חתן how is marriage is working out. Rather is was מוסר offered to a חתן that it’s up to him to create a marriage that is מָצָא אִשָּׁה, מָצָא טוֹב. If he acts improperly then it turns into וּמוֹצֶא אֲנִי מַר מִמָּוֶת אֶת הָאִשָּׁה.

3 – We mentioned the story with רב and his wife. יבמות סג, א.

Rav’s wife would constantly aggravate him. When he would say to her: Prepare me lentils, she would prepare him peas; if he asked her for peas, she would prepare him lentils.

When Ḥiyya, his son, grew up, he would reverse the requests Rav asked him to convey to her, so that Rav would get what he wanted. Rav said to his son Ḥiyya: Your mother has improved now that you convey my requests.

He said to Rav: It is I who reverse your request to her.

Rav said to him: This is an example of the well-known adage that people say: He who comes from you shall teach you wisdom; I should have thought of that idea myself. You, however, should not do so, i.e., reverse my request, as it is stated: “They have taught their tongue to speak lies, they weary themselves to commit iniquity, etc.” If you attribute such a request to me, you will have uttered a falsehood.

4 – Speaking of more bitter than death, we mentioned what the collector said about his competitor:

‘He should have a sweet death. א גרוזאוויג פון האניג זאל עם איבערפאר’ן….’

5 – The fourth suggestion of the גמרא on the meaning of מצא is burial. A person needs to pray that when the time comes he should have a proper burial. Meaning that nothing should be taken for granted.

This is the source of the famous expression זִיבּוּלָא בַּתְרַיְיתָא.

אֲמַר רַבָּה בַּר רַב שֵׁילָא: הַיְינוּ דְּאָמְרִי אֱינָשֵׁי: לִיבְעֵי אֱינַשׁ רַחֲמֵי אֲפִילּוּ עַד זִיבּוּלָא בַּתְרַיְיתָא שְׁלָמָא.

Rabba bar Rav Sheila said, that is the meaning of the folk saying: A person should even pray for mercy until the final shovelful of dirt is thrown upon his grave.

6 – Discussed the topic of a בית מדרש versus a בית כנסת.

7 – The humorous דרשה on the continuation of this פסוק in תהילים.

עַל זֹאת יִתְפַּלֵּל כׇּל חָסִיד אֵלֶיךָ לְעֵת מְצֹא רַק לְשֵׁטֶף מַיִם רַבִּים אֵלָיו לֹא יַגִּיעוּ.

The story of the girls jumping into the water first and the boys copying them. גיטין.

The ruling of the בית דין של מעלה that these girls will ‘control their husbands’….

Thus the prayer that this לעת מצא, a ruling wife – לְשֵׁטֶף מַיִם רַבִּים אֵלָיו לֹא יַגִּיעוּ

עַל זֹאת יִתְפַּלֵּל כׇּל חָסִיד אֵלֶיךָ לְעֵת מְצֹא רַק לְשֵׁטֶף מַיִם רַבִּים אֵלָיו לֹא יַגִּיעוּ

ומסיימין בטוב.

😀

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Hebrew notes.

 

יבמות סג, א. רב ובנו.

מצא, מוצא את האשה. האשה בגמט׳ איש, כלומר שמושלת עליו. מהרש״א.

מצא, לעיתים רחוקים. מוצא, יותר מצוי. ערל״נ.

עין יעקב- כל הכוונה היא לתת מוסר לחתן שאם יתנהג עפ״י תורה יזכה למצא.

גר״א – אין הכוונה לפסוק. רק מצא לשון עבר. כי כשטוב לאדם מקצר ואומר טוב, וזה הוא, מצא. אבל כשלא טוב לו ממשיך תמיד, מוצא.

חפץ חיים- אשה רעה כולם יודעים כבר ואין בזה לשה״ר…

זו מיתה. gruzovik של דבש.

לשטף מים רבים.