Shiur 11/09/15
Beitza 2a-b.
Our Gemara gives four answer on the basic question of why an egg hatched on Yom Tov is permissible to eat according to Beis Shammai and prohibited according to Beis Hillel.
The question: The premise is that if one can Shecht the chicken (which is permissible on Yom Tov if it was planned) the egg should also be permitted. Conversly if the chicken cannot be used (because it is designated only for laying eggs, and so cannot be shechted on yom tov) then the egg is also Muktzeh/Nolad.
Answer #1- Rav Nachman’s reasoning is that the the argument of B”S and B”H is whether or not there exists the concept of Muktzeh on Shabbos and Yom Tov. In other words if the Chachomim did indeed enact many of the laws of Muktzeh to begin with. (Albeit all do agree to that some extent laws of Muktzeh do indeed exist).
So our Mishna is talking about an egg-laying chicken, which is Muktzeh. And the egg it has hatched on Yom Tov is also Muktzeh. Thus the prohibition of B”H. On the other hand according to B”S there are no laws of Muktzeh thus the chicken and the egg are permissible.
Answer 2-4 next Shiur IY”H.
2- we spoke about the three reason for enactment of the laws of Muktzeh. One is that people should not move around heavy furniture or rocks (phermitted Min-Hatorah) and desecrating the spirit of Shabbos and Yom Tov.
Precise Copy of Aron Kodesh in Beitar Ilit
When they expanded 770, (phase two) this question came into play as the Mizrach wall was demolished right before Shabbos and the moving of the Aron Kodesh was possible only after the Zman.
3- The Gemara burrows into the concept of ‘Machlokes v’acher kach stam’.
4- The Gemara quotes a Mishnah concerning remnants of a meal such as ‘shells and bones on top of a board’ – Tavlah –
The term ‘room and board’. We mentioned the meaning of this ‘board’ which was the common way to eat prior to using plates. Steak on a board with gravy ridge.
In the Misnagdishe dry Kentucky counties – still under prohibition, only serve club members, in a club room in back of restaurants
We mentioned what was heard from the Shliach of Nepal R’ Chezky Lifshitz, because of political sparring with India which supplies resources to Nepal, 60 days have passed with no cooking gas, and no gasoline, resulting in very few cars on the road. The Chabad house cooks with wood. Imagine if this was done to Gaza…
5- Fundamental concept of ‘Koche deHetaira Adif’. Meaning that when answering a Halachik problem it is preferable to rule leniently.
Anyone can rule and be Machmir! Rashi – “shehakol yecholin l’hachmir”.
On the other hand a lenient ruling is based on knowledge and experience.
Much has been written on the above concept. Many quote an incident mentioned in the Yerushalmi, about R Shmuel telling R Nachman who claimed to be an expert on fish filet, “people that say treif on kosher will eventually…”
6- Story of my father: At that time, those learning for smicha went to the lower East Side to the beis din shtiebel, near to the meat market where people would come with shaalos on their shechted chickens all day. The Rav would ask the bochurim to rule. When an old lady came in with a fleishig spoon which she had used for ice cream, the bochurim said – cold spoon and food, no problem. However, the Rav instructed the woman to go kasher the spoon.
When the boys questioned his ruling, the Rav, turned to the lady and asked what she did once she realized her mistake with the spoon, she replied “I washed it with hot water of course!”…
7-Heard from Reb Boruch Kievman – In the midbar, all had enough to eat; Man galore for all… So for the entire 40 years, how did one fulfill the mitzvah of feeding the poor?
For Tzaddikim, their Man fell at their doorsteps, but the Man fell farther away for a not-so-holy person, so he would have to go out and gather his Man.
But the poor Rosh Yeshiva who by nacht hat gezindikt, would be too embarrassed to go and collect his Man, would remain indoors and go hungry…